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    First off, the owner shouldn't get anything. But having said that. I've seen where they add gratuity for parties of 7 or over and I kind of get that. I always leave 20% but if there's already a gratuity added, and I consider a "service charge" to be just that, then if I liked the service, I'll tack on another 5%. But you can call it a "gratuity" or "service", its the same thing no matter what they say. Because if not, you can end up giving up to 35% extra, 15 for service and another 20 for gratuity. At that rate by the end of the week, you could have booked another flight to Aruba, lol...

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    I seldom leave anything if 15% is included in the bill. Too bad for them because I normally tip 20%.

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    15% service charge or not
    click this above link
    i really encourage you all to read this particular thread about the mandated 15% at some of the restaurants.

    ex: buccaneer charges the 15%
    we always go to buccaneer in spite of their charging the mandated service charge.
    when we go to the buccaneer, if the service is good or better than good, we leave an additional 5 or 10%.

    i am with the thought that these restaurants are shooting themselves in the foot
    by mandating a gratuity and it is not at all proper for any of these restaurants to call it a tax.

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    I read the linked thread and this one.

    Any waitperson in the US who doesn't voluntarily share their tips with busboys and kitchen staff won't last long in the business. So the fact that it is shared in Aruba shouldn't be an issue.

    As far as I'm concerned, what happens to the 15% is not the issue. It's the mandatory nature of the charge. People don't like to be told what to do.

    There is also the devious aspect of this. Many customers, unaccustomed to restaurant practices outside the US, will automatically add a full tip to the check total. I don't agree with the, "They should have checked their bill more carefully." position. That's just saying it's OK to cheat careless people.

    I actually believe restaurants should pay waitstaff a living wage and eliminate tipping altogether. But that'll never happen.

    Around the world, some restaurant customers are deadbeats and some are generous. Restaurant staff seem to survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM View Post
    I read the linked thread and this one.

    Any waitperson in the US who doesn't voluntarily share their tips with busboys and kitchen staff won't last long in the business. So the fact that it is shared in Aruba shouldn't be an issue.

    As far as I'm concerned, what happens to the 15% is not the issue. It's the mandatory nature of the charge. People don't like to be told what to do.

    There is also the devious aspect of this. Many customers, unaccustomed to restaurant practices outside the US, will automatically add a full tip to the check total. I don't agree with the, "They should have checked their bill more carefully." position. That's just saying it's OK to cheat careless people.

    I actually believe restaurants should pay waitstaff a living wage and eliminate tipping altogether. But that'll never happen.

    Around the world, some restaurant customers are deadbeats and some are generous. Restaurant staff seem to survive.

    That's how it works here in Scandinavia. Love it..

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    This is a cultural issue.
    Some compare it to U.S. vs. Aruba.
    Some wish it were as it is in Europe.

    In Aruba it is what it is.

    If you have an issue with the 15% automatically added, whatever you or the establishment wishes to call it, do not patronize the restaurant.

    Many here would say there are way too many excellent restaurants to choose from.

    If you do not like the policy vote with your feet and take your wallet to an establishment which does not charge any mandatory charges, fees or taxes, other than the BBO. The BBO is a tax required by the Aruban government.
    Last edited by Arubalisa; 10-09-2011 at 03:15 PM.

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    I don't let the 15% charge effect my dining choices because I am able to deal with it and take it into account when I dine. I was just expressing my opinion in general terms. You eliminate a lot of restaurants when you avoid the 15%'ers.

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    My local joints don't charge 15%. The price is the price.

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    BBO tax

    Of the seven restaurants we visited in our recent trip only two had the tax on the bill.

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    the bbo tax is something totally different than the 15% mandated gratuity.

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