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    I tend to tip a bit heavy, but on a buffet I usually tip a bit less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM View Post
    The tipping we are accustomed to in the US is not common in the rest of the Western world. I agree restaurant workers have to work hard for not very much money. I don't feel the customer should be expected to make up the difference. Customers are guilted into tipping because everyone knows how badly staff are paid.

    I have respect for restaurant workers and always treat them that way. The pay structure for restaurant workers is broken and should be fixed.
    I agree and disagree. The way we tip, especially in the US, is way different than most of the rest of the world, unless that place caters to the US dollar. Believe me, tipping is greatly frowned upon in Japan as being disrespectful, but go to an Americanized hotel or bar and the workers expect that tip. On the other hand, I don't think the customer is expected to make up the disparity in wages nor are we guilted into a large tip. If someone provides good service it shouldn't matter if it's at MJs or the hotel buffet, it should be acknowledged. We all know how the included service charges are distributed (or not) at several of the more popular spots on the island. Some places I wouldn't tip a nickel due to lousy service, but when someone goes out of their way to provide great service I am thankful and show my appreciation, even if it's the kid at the coconut stand. And those waiters and bartenders have a long memory of how they are treated. How many of you are greeted when you return to Aruba by a favorite bartender or server? It may not be correct to say, but the way you tip and treat folks is long remembered.

    As for the restaurant pay structure being broke, that would require it's own forum to be discussed.

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    I have often wondered how wages work in Aruba? Here in the US we know that waiters and Bartenders have a lower minimum wage of $2.13/hour. That is why tipping is such a big deal here. Does anyone know the minimum wage (if there is one) for wait staff in Aruba?
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    no idea tracey

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaltVB View Post
    ...I don't think the customer is expected to make up the disparity in wages nor are we guilted into a large tip.

    If someone provides good service it shouldn't matter if it's at MJs or the hotel buffet, it should be acknowledged.

    We all know how the included service charges are distributed (or not) at several of the more popular spots on the island...

    And those waiters and bartenders have a long memory of how they are treated...
    Good service should be acknowledged. The issue is how much. As I said in my earlier post, the service level is different for full service vs. buffet. I was just suggesting I wouldn't tip as high a % for buffet as for full service.

    I'm not at all sure we know how included service charges are distributed. My assumption is that it's a mandatory tip and I add some to it if it's earned. I have had waitstaff tell me all kinds of things about how the SC is used. Most of it is to get you to think they see none of it so you should leave a tip on top of the SC. A mandatory SC is, after all, a service charge. Isn't that what a tip is? An amount you pay for service? We have no control over how management distributes tips and/or service charges unless I hand the waitperson cash at the table.

    Waiters and bartenders have a long memory... That sounds like a threat (not from you, Walt). You earn your tips with good service, not with a threat of retaliation.

    To repeat, I tip reasonably. For full service, 18%-20% on the full check. I don't deduct any taxes or the liquor amount before calculating the % so they are getting more than "standard". I tip less for buffets because the service is less, not in quality but in quantity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traceyd14 View Post
    I have often wondered how wages work in Aruba? Here in the US we know that waiters and Bartenders have a lower minimum wage of $2.13/hour. That is why tipping is such a big deal here. Does anyone know the minimum wage (if there is one) for wait staff in Aruba?
    It's very different from the US. When I first heard what a waitress/waiter earns per hour, I was shocked! In most European countries, wages for most employees are much higher! The taxes are as well much higher, over 50% in most cases. But at the end, people still have more money in their pockets than here in the US (average employees, not business people or CEOs!) The high taxes includes health care insurance, unemployment and retirement money.

    Here is some info for the Netherlands:

    Waiter/Waitress Salary

    The average wage for a Waiter/Waitress is 8.50 per hour. Most people with this job move on to other positions after 10 years in this field.

    http://www.payscale.com/research/NL/...ss/Hourly_Rate


    This rate is for employees. Please keep in mind that about 50% will be deducted for taxes. In Aruba (or many other places) it "could" be that some of the waitresses/waiters are only there for a few months and they might not really be employed at the restaurants, just being "seasonal workers", possibly with less salary. Many years ago, I was temporarily working as a waitress over the weekend (in Germany), I was not an employee, but I was paid 10% of the items (food, drinks), plus I got to keep my tips. As an average, I made $100 for 7 hours work. Hard work, I have to say! Since then, I have a lot of respect and patience for waiting staff!

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    The way I tip: If I had a good time, I'm generous. If not, I give less.

    I don't care too much how professional somebody is, for me, it's more important how someone makes me feel, it's my vacation and having a good time is part of it.

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    believe minimum wage is 5.50?
    As for tipping, without question, my tip would be 20% or more.
    If the buffet is 30.00 for two, I would leave 10.00, I'd be ashamed to leave 10%..

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    we did go to the LaVista last week and we had a gift certificate.

    there was a service charge 15% added to the bill

    the server explained that there are 2 kinds of bills........
    1. if the diners are paying with cash or credit card no service charge added
    2. if paying with a voucher from casino or with gift card, a 15% will be added

    i do not know the reasoning

    the bill including the 15% was about $98
    we threw in $6 more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea J. View Post
    we did go to the LaVista last week and we had a gift certificate.

    there was a service charge 15% added to the bill

    the server explained that there are 2 kinds of bills........
    1. if the diners are paying with cash or credit card no service charge added
    2. if paying with a voucher from casino or with gift card, a 15% will be added

    i do not know the reasoning

    the bill including the 15% was about $98
    we threw in $6 more
    Don't understand the reasoning either.... you treated the tip as I would have... and additional 5-8 for good service.

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