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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea J. View Post
    here is the translation from Minsiter Otmar Oduber's FB page re: the Radisson.

    Parliament is AGAINST another AI

    translation as follows:
    Trying to regulate all inclusive property is known from the beginning of 2013 and continue in 2014 & 2015 where a rapport is in the process of finalizing and counting on the support of the 21 parlamentario





    To back up a permit regarding this issue.Aruba is the third country in the world that is dependent on tourism keeping this in mind we need to stand for the well being of our island and because of this we are against more all inclusives hotels




    I can read the words but I don't have a clue what he said.

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    he said and i greatly parapharase.......... Aruba does not want any more all inclusives!

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM View Post
    I can read the words but I don't have a clue what he said.

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    from 24 Ora Aruba

    Otmar Oduber: Tanto Carlson Group como RIU tabata na altura tocante maneho di Gobierno pa loke ta All Inclusive
    Monday, 01 June 2015 19:07

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    Dialuna atardi Minister Otmar Oduber tabatin un pressbriefing pa asina elabora riba e benta di Radisson y posicion di Gobierno den esaki. El a indica cu den e proceso di benta di Radisson, cual ya caba a bin ta tumando lugar pa casi 1 aņa y cu hasta un bidding a tuma lugar, Carlson Group y Gobierno tabatin contacto na varios ocasion pa papia riba dje. Durante e contactonan aki Gobierno di Aruba a mustra e importancia pa nos isla di e maneho pa loke ta trata All Inclusive. Ya caba for di 2013 Gobierno a haci un anuncio publico caminda a notifica cu riba e maneho cu tabatin pa cu e moratorio pabou di nos isla (cu ta exclui e parti pariba di nos isla) ta inclui e parti cu ta bisa cu pa companianan existente y/of companianan nobo si kier bin cu operacion di All Inclusive, esakinan lo mester haya un aprobacion di Gobierno di Aruba prome cu esaki por tuma lugar.Despues di esaki, na juni 2014 Oficina di Turismo como e organo oficial di turismo a wordo instrui dor di Minister Oduber pa cuminsa un proceso pa legislacion pa loke ta trata reglamentacion di All Inclusive na Aruba. Oficina di abogado di Sr. Allan Kuster ta esun cu a wordo acerca e tempo ey. Conseho cu a wordo duna ta cu ta bon pa basa esaki riba un rapport cual a wordo traha tambe; e prome fase a wordo presenta na october 2014 y e di dos na maart 2015 y awor ta den su fase final pa wordo entrega. E rapport aki ta haci estudionan necesario pa mira kico e impacto economico ta di All Inclusive. A pesar cu e tendencia global ta pa atrae e mercado di All Inclusive na nan resort, toch por mira den e rapportnan preliminario cu ta hopi dificil pa haya informacion riba kico e impacto di All Inclusive ta riba economia di e lugarnan unda nan ta opera.“Pa nos e ta hopi cla, desde 2 aņa pasa cu nos a cuminsa e proceso aki nos a bisa cu nos a diferente, e ta un escohencia cu e Gobierno aki a haci di bisa cu nos ta un comunidad chikito, cu nos tin un inventario chikito di apenas 9mil camber na e momentonan aki y nos como Aruba ta scohe pa bay den e direccion di turismo di calidad, e turismo afluente y no ta bay competi cu otro paisnan manera Cancun, Republica Dominicana, Jamaica y otronan”, Minister di Turismo a duna di conoce. E mandatario a agrega cu recientemente Parlamento den su totalidad unanimente a aproba un mocion caminda ta duna luz berde na Gobierno pa termina e estudio ariba menciona y una bes esaki ta cla, entrega e legislacionnan necesario pa por hinca All Inclusive den un vergunningstelsel. Es decir, esnan cu kier opera un All Inclusive na Aruba lo mester di un permiso special for di Gobierno.Minister Oduber a bolbe remarca cu a notifica Carlson Group adelanta riba maneho di Gobierno y pa sorpresa di tur hende siman pasa diahuebs Gobierno a wordo notifica y despues diabierna confirma dor di abogado di RIU cu lo tin un posibel acuerdo cu lo a wordo yega entre Carlson y RIU. Gobierno di su banda a notifica inmediatamente e abogado cu esaki ta en pugna cu e maneho cu ta conoci pa RIU y pa Carlson Group y cu Gobierno di Aruba no lo coopera pa e posibel tumamento over di Radisson dor di un All Inclusive na Aruba.Diabierna atardi tambe a haya contacto cu Carlson Group y a notificanan cu esaki ta contra cu loke ta e acuerdonan cu Gobierno, contra di e maneho cu nan a wordo poni na altura. Mientras tanto dialuna mainta den corte a haya sa cu e proceso entre RIU y Carlson a dura 8 dia for di momento cu nan a cuminsa negocia te ora nan a cera, esaki a pesar cu pa lunanan nan tabata cu un compania cu tabata cumpliendo cu e ‘due diligence’ necesario. Esaki, pa Gobierno di Aruba ta un muestra cu no ta un bon ciudadano, un bon partner di Aruba.Minister Otmar Oduber a bisa cu e proceso aki tabata un dificil mirando cu ta trata di un transaccion priva, algo cu normalmente Gobierno no ta mete den dje, pero den e caso aki a mira cu bienestar general ta pisa mas y a dicidi di uni na e caso dialuna mainta. Despues Aruba Gastronomic Association, Aruba Tourism Authority y ATIA a mustra cu nan ta sostene maneho di Gobierno sosteni dor di Parlamento pa loke ta regulacion di All Inclusive.“Aruba ta e di tres pais den mundo cu ta mas dependiente di turismo, e bienestar general ta duna cu nos mester por salvaguardia nos economia y hotelnan existente mester por compronde tambe cu nos mester salvaguardia esaki”, Minister Otmar Oduber a indica.


    I have no idea what this says

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    When all these rumors started about the Radisson being sold, my dw and I started wondering who was buying. If it went the way of the RUI, we would just go someplace else, that would be a shame, because of all the great employees we made friends with over the years of staying there and that is 2-3 times a year. We'll be there in August and I don't think anything will happen by then, but you never know. I'm hoping it goes the way of Hilton....

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    This was posted in today's Diario newspaper http://www.diario.aw/2015/06/abogado...-radisson-caba

    I contacted locals that I know to translate. I'm still waiting for a few other locals to get back to me.

    Translation from a local employee at Carlito's Bar: There are two groups who bought Radisson one of them is Riu and Aruba Growth Fund...but the last did not pay and Riu did pay...but Aruba Growth Fund said they are waiting for the keys of the hotel to pay the difference. Court will make a decision June 17.

    Translation from a local restaurant owner: Article mentions that the building from the radisson is sold to the Riu. Another company (Aruba Growth Fund) claims that this is not possible since they are about to transfer the money to the Carlson group. Judge will think about it and comes with an answer June 17.

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    ya, those i have talked to are saying the same. saying that the deal was proceeding with the aruba growth group, but the radisson owners brought the riu into the mix. so now in the hands of the court.





    Quote Originally Posted by Liz - Aruba Lover View Post
    This was posted in today's Diario newspaper http://www.diario.aw/2015/06/abogado...-radisson-caba

    I contacted locals that I know to translate. I'm still waiting for a few other locals to get back to me.

    Translation from a local employee at Carlito's Bar: There are two groups who bought Radisson one of them is Riu and Aruba Growth Fund...but the last did not pay and Riu did pay...but Aruba Growth Fund said they are waiting for the keys of the hotel to pay the difference. Court will make a decision June 17.

    Translation from a local restaurant owner: Article mentions that the building from the radisson is sold to the Riu. Another company (Aruba Growth Fund) claims that this is not possible since they are about to transfer the money to the Carlson group. Judge will think about it and comes with an answer June 17.

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    http://www.noticiacla.com/news/3107

    waiting for translation

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    I assumed it would be easy to find a site that you could copy and paste the article and have it translated; I was very wrong!

    I wish I wasn't anxious about our trip in ​August and possible changes to our stay but I"m just one big worrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostongal View Post
    I assumed it would be easy to find a site that you could copy and paste the article and have it translated; I was very wrong!

    I wish I wasn't anxious about our trip in ​August and possible changes to our stay but I"m just one big worrier.
    Don't worry about your trip in August. No way could any changes happen to the resort that quickly.... maybe contracts etc signed, but they would not shut down the hotel without months of notice. The Radisson was updated in stages a few years ago and one building was closed at a time over time so no big renovations would be needed. Any buyer for the Radisson would be buying it as an investment to generate income so any disruption would be minimal and planned months ahead of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostongal View Post
    I assumed it would be easy to find a site that you could copy and paste the article and have it translated; I was very wrong!

    I wish I wasn't anxious about our trip in ​August and possible changes to our stay but I"m just one big worrier.
    I thought the same about the translation on an earlier article and yes, we were wrong. I really don't think we will know anything for sure until the court ruling on June 17th.
    Not sure when, but we will be back

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