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    Quote Originally Posted by Aruba4ever View Post
    but thinks we should potentially rip out the entire ceiling and redo the insulation and that should solve the issues.
    NOT! That'll take care of the cosmetic stuff for now..... but doesn't solve the problem of water getting in....!

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    I have a good friend who was my former neighbor and a contractor....I will reach out to him as well. I hate this crap! Thanks for your input as I agree the more I think about it. The problem is the ice dams....I am thinking of redoing the roof line half way up with the water and ice or potentially that side of the house....its two different roof lines so I would not have to do my entire house. My old neighbor redid my roof on my old house and I had issues with icedams there before but never had issues after he redid my roof and the the ice and water seal for almost the entire roof.

    I am thinking redoing the roof and installing cables is my best solution to my problem, thoughts on that Chuck?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpjones View Post
    NOT! That'll take care of the cosmetic stuff for now..... but doesn't solve the problem of water getting in....!

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    I think you should talk to a roofer. We had a new roof installed a few months ago, to the tune of $8000. They told us, when doing the estimate, that they were required by the Building Code to install an ice shield around the entire perimeter, before laying the shingles. I think it was 3 feet or coverage. They may be able to offer a solution.

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    Like CP says and my hubby, don't need the wires plugged in 24/7, we burn wood so really can't go by electric bill. We have not had ice dams since we had a new roof few years ago, they put a strip of material down that was pretty large to prevent ice dams. Good luck! Houses like cars, boats etc. are wonderful until you need to do repairs $$$

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    My thought of the day- insurance companies are scams!!!! They instantly tried to get me NOT to submit my claim because I had one several years ago during the winter that was the worst winter ever....all homes had issues, new homes, old homes etc.. She stated asking what did you do to prevent it from happening again. My response was nothing because it was happening to everyone and I was not throwing away my money on something that would not even make a difference potentially. My next response was denying my claim is not an option because we will end up in court over it! I do not pay for insurance that is not going to fix my damage....but my next statement was I will at least redo the insulation and add electric cables when my home is repaired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aruba4ever View Post
    I have a good friend who was my former neighbor and a contractor....I will reach out to him as well. I hate this crap! Thanks for your input as I agree the more I think about it. The problem is the ice dams....I am thinking of redoing the roof line half way up with the water and ice or potentially that side of the house....its two different roof lines so I would not have to do my entire house. My old neighbor redid my roof on my old house and I had issues with icedams there before but never had issues after he redid my roof and the the ice and water seal for almost the entire roof.

    I am thinking redoing the roof and installing cables is my best solution to my problem, thoughts on that Chuck?
    Yup..... agreed. It's what I ended up doing... I also changed out the 'rain-guard' gutters to regular gutters. Unfortunately the rain guard was part of the problem in the valley of the roof since snow and ice would back up.

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    I have those same gutters so maybe that is an issue with my house as well. Thanks for the advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpjones View Post
    Yup..... agreed. It's what I ended up doing... I also changed out the 'rain-guard' gutters to regular gutters. Unfortunately the rain guard was part of the problem in the valley of the roof since snow and ice would back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aruba4ever View Post
    I have those same gutters so maybe that is an issue with my house as well. Thanks for the advice.
    They were fantastic for all my straight applications, but a north facing inside corner that got minimal sun was a problem.

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    This will make you feel better, maybe;

    Owning a home or rental property is always a challenge. Be thankful for insurance, because:

    We have rental property that we bought so hubby can store his cars in the outbuildings and keep the trailer on the property. We rent the house out. In October, the tenant called and said there was a hole where the lid to the septic tank was supposed to be. Hubby went over and called me, while I was on my way home from Philly and asked me to stop there. I walked up to see a 5 foot hole in the ground filled with sewage and no tank-no block or cement. Insurance does not cover septic. Between the new system, permits, engineer, plumbing, etc. it was over $16,000.

    Home. We have solar panels on the three different sections of roof on the back of our house. Three or four years ago, hubby noticed a drop off in our production of electricity. We called an electrician, who thought it was due to our trees getting big, so we had them removed, but it didn't seem to help. By winter, we were producing so much less electricity that he called him back again and we noticed a squirrel's nest under the panels. We figured they chewed through a wire or two(the panels are daisy chained), so the electrician began to remove the panels after bringing in a lift. Not only did the squirrels chew on the wiring of 19 out of 24 panels, they had also chewed up the roof in spots under the panels to a point that we had to replace the whole back roof on the second floor in February. So all the panels had to come down and the rack system. Then they had to remove the panels on the sunroom(first floor) so they the roofers could access the second floor, then everything had to be put back up. Insurance does not cover rodent damage. Total cost about $18,000, not including the cost of the trees or the landscaping that had to be done because we took out about 12 trees and us then completing the roof on the rest of the house the following year so they would be the same age.

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    Ouch!!!! I would be crying and very poor if those things happened to me. I just want to fix my issue so I can "enjoy" the winter without stressing out because of water damage issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by robin View Post
    This will make you feel better, maybe;

    Owning a home or rental property is always a challenge. Be thankful for insurance, because:

    We have rental property that we bought so hubby can store his cars in the outbuildings and keep the trailer on the property. We rent the house out. In October, the tenant called and said there was a hole where the lid to the septic tank was supposed to be. Hubby went over and called me, while I was on my way home from Philly and asked me to stop there. I walked up to see a 5 foot hole in the ground filled with sewage and no tank-no block or cement. Insurance does not cover septic. Between the new system, permits, engineer, plumbing, etc. it was over $16,000.

    Home. We have solar panels on the three different sections of roof on the back of our house. Three or four years ago, hubby noticed a drop off in our production of electricity. We called an electrician, who thought it was due to our trees getting big, so we had them removed, but it didn't seem to help. By winter, we were producing so much less electricity that he called him back again and we noticed a squirrel's nest under the panels. We figured they chewed through a wire or two(the panels are daisy chained), so the electrician began to remove the panels after bringing in a lift. Not only did the squirrels chew on the wiring of 19 out of 24 panels, they had also chewed up the roof in spots under the panels to a point that we had to replace the whole back roof on the second floor in February. So all the panels had to come down and the rack system. Then they had to remove the panels on the sunroom(first floor) so they the roofers could access the second floor, then everything had to be put back up. Insurance does not cover rodent damage. Total cost about $18,000, not including the cost of the trees or the landscaping that had to be done because we took out about 12 trees and us then completing the roof on the rest of the house the following year so they would be the same age.

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