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    Amy, you are absolutely right! This administration led by the "annointed one" is by far the WORST administration in history. They are Arrogant,Corrupt,Anti-American,Lying,Cheating. The majority of the people in the USA did NOT want this disastrous healthcare bill but they crammed it down our throats anyways.
    Next will be granting Amnesty for illegal aliens so they can sure up the democratic vote. It is just plain wrong what is going on in the USA. It's disgusting!!! The annointed one is a radical,corrupt,arrogant socialist. He needs to be voted out of office along with Reid and Botox lady Pelosi and the rest of the corrupt administration that is running (or I should say ruining) this country. Actually he should be impeached since he has no regard for the Constitution.







    Quote Originally Posted by ~Amy~ View Post
    Don't forget that the House snuck alot of "extras" into the HealthCare Bill. They did take out the lovely Cornhusker Kickback for NE but still included the "Louisiana Purchase" and a new hospital for the state of CT. And....

    They were able to sneak a student loan provision into it when it was sent back the Senate. Private lenders are now eliminated from the student loan program - it will all be gov't issued. What do student loans have to do with healthcare?????

    Too much gov't control.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonLager View Post
    no regard for the Constitution.
    You're right - because the main principles OUR Constitution is based on:

    Popular Sovereignty
    Limited Government
    Separation of Powers
    Federalism
    Checks & Balances
    Judicial Review
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    Smile Pat on the Back to You All!

    A side note: As mentioned before I am just a Canadian trying to learn.

    I would like to commend everyone that is weighing in on this topic. No one has resorted to personal attacks, name calling or ** out words. Even though we come together here mainly to share our love of Aruba, I feel like I have learnt the most fact based information. Other discussion boards I have gone too seem to run quickly too personal attacks and what I think is probably scare tatic propaganda. Some people are just down right mean! I guess being behind a computer screen makes them tough.

    So thanks again. Hope it can get figured. Because if our friends to the South suffer we do too.......okay other than the fact that your weak dollar/our strong dollar helps me in Aruba

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    Quote Originally Posted by purestone2004 View Post
    Some people are just down right mean! I guess being behind a computer screen makes them tough.
    A perfect opportunity to sneak in a reminder about the rules.



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    AMEN! Can you send this to a hundred other "fight"........I mean "discussion" boards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by purestone2004 View Post
    AMEN! Can you send this to a hundred other "fight"........I mean "discussion" boards!
    There are not enough hours in a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonLager View Post
    The annointed one is a radical,corrupt,arrogant socialist. He needs to be voted out of office along with Reid and Botox lady Pelosi and the rest of the corrupt administration that is running (or I should say ruining) this country.
    Love it......BostonLager....you are great!
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    I don't know the answer, but here's a question:

    Do most Americans want a socialist country, much in the style of Europe?

    I ask this because when one looks at election results, there is a definite trend toward government control. The presidency and many House and Senate seats were won by people touting this type of economy. (The same could be said for many state positions.) They were elected. Similarly, through the course of the past 12-16 months any number of officials have touted everything from "spreading the wealth" to "leveling the playing field" and so on. The public seems to embrace this. They want college paid for by someone else (aka government) ditto for healthcare, mortgage subsidies, unemployment payments, and the list goes on.

    With the exception of a few protests, I have not seen any major resistance to this movement. There have been no shut downs of corporations or vast lock-outs or huge blockages of highways the way the farmers do in France.

    And so, I ask again, do Americans want socialism? Do they want to have that vast safety net, albeit an expensive one? Do they want to surrender their freedom in exchange for a modicum of security, a most basic level of comfort, even if it denies them the opportunity for greatness?

    Just a question...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanNic44 View Post

    Do most Americans want a socialist country, much in the style of Europe?

    I ask this because when one looks at election results, there is a definite trend toward government control.
    Everyone gets one vote, and all votes count the same. The average voter is not capable of making a well educated decision.


    Quote Originally Posted by SanNic44 View Post
    With the exception of a few protests, I have not seen any major resistance to this movement. There have been no shut downs of corporations or vast lock-outs or huge blockages of highways the way the farmers do in France.
    We're too busy working and raising our families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob o View Post
    Everyone gets one vote, and all votes count the same. The average voter is not capable of making a well educated decision.




    We're too busy working and raising our families.
    What if Ben Franklin, George Washington, and all the other founders had thought this way?

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