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    Quote Originally Posted by SanNic44 View Post
    What if Ben Franklin, George Washington, and all the other founders had thought this way?

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    Tough question.

    With respect to the one person one vote system I have no answer; I don't know of a better way as frustrating as it is to see a political party (guess who) round up hoards of voters at election time.

    WIth respect to Ben Franklin, George Washington, and all the other founders; these were unique, great men (also, men of great means)....and we were lucky to have them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob o View Post
    Love it......BostonLager....you are great!

    Thanks Rob O. I agree with what you are saying in your posts too! You are right on target.


    This Administration is disatrous for this country. I just read a book titled "Culture of Corruption" by Michelle Malkin. WOW!!! She exposes all of the corruption in this Administration. It's out of control!!!!

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    It's already starting....sure our Pres. said you can "keep your coverage that you already have" but at what cost?!? At least read the text in bold....they may stop making certain devices and costs will go up....it's only going to get worse.........


    Minneapolis Star Tribune
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    3M Co. on Friday joined the growing list of companies taking one-time charges against earnings because they have lost a key tax deduction as result of the newly enacted health care law.

    The St. Paul-based company said it would take a one-time, non-cash charge of $85 million to $90 million after tax, or about 12 cents a share, in the first quarter. The charge reflects the loss of a tax deduction on subsidies the company receives from the government to provide prescription drug coverage for its retirees.
    In January, 3M increased its earnings expectations for 2010 from its prior forecast of $4.85 to $5 a share to $4.90 to $5.10. On Friday, 3M did not say how much annual subsidy it expects to receive for its retiree drug coverage.
    Several other companies, including Deere & Co., Caterpillar Inc. and AK Steel Corp., have announced similar one-time charges. AT&T said Friday it would take a $1 billion noncash charge against earnings because of the tax deduction change.
    The loss of the tax deduction isn't the only impact 3M is expecting from the health care overhaul. The company also said this week it may face higher costs because of a medical-device tax contained in the legislation. A variety of 3M products -- including dental and orthodontic appliances, skin- and wound-care products and surgical drapes -- could be subject to the tax.
    3M spokeswoman Jacqueline Berry said the annual tax could total $25 million to $50 million. She said it could prompt the company to stop making certain devices or pass the tax on to patients or providers in the form of higher prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanNic44 View Post
    Do most Americans want a socialist country, much in the style of Europe?

    ...any number of officials have touted everything from "spreading the wealth" to "leveling the playing field" and so on. The public seems to embrace this. They want college paid for by someone else (aka government) ditto for healthcare, mortgage subsidies, unemployment payments, and the list goes on. ...
    Just a question...
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    Just an answer

    socialism
    so·cial·ism–noun
    1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
    2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
    3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

    communism
    com·mu·nism–noun
    1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
    2. (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
    3. (initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.
    4. communalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadd View Post
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
    -George Bernard Shaw
    Good quote!!! (sad, but true)
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    When I get back from Aruba and have some room on my signature, I think I'll add a ticker to January 20, 2013 and pray that it's the last day of Communist Rule in the USA.

    See my next post.
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    ....until the fall of the Communist Regime in the USA!

    01/20/2013
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    Have you read this one yet? So true!
    The "annointed one's" next evil step is to grant illegal aliens amnesty to sure up the democratic vote. Who's going to pay for their healthcare? That's right! All of us. This country is out of control with these wack-jobs in office.

    You have 2 families..." Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both familieshave 2 parents, 2 children and live in California .


    " Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted....

    "Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social SecurityNumber, and gets paid $15.00 per hour cash "under the table".
    Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year.
    Now take 30% away for state and federal tax ... Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.

    Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year.Jose Illegal pays no taxes... Jose I llegal now has $31,200.00

    Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage$1000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00

    Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has$31,200.00

    Joe Legal makes too much money, is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $1,000.00 for food per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00

    Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

    Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year JoeLegal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00

    Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays rent $500.00 per month $6,000.00 per year.

    Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00

    Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

    Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.

    Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.

    Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and FireServices, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not.

    Don't vote/support any politician that supports illegal aliens...
    It's PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
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