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    Jail in Aruba = scenic
    Jail in Chile not so scenic....
    Dear Joran, they finally got ya'.
    Let the legal system do its thing right this time.

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    looks like Chile is going to ship him to peru. interview on today with brother and sis-in-law of girl joran is accused of murdering. also showed father at grave site....sometimes wonder if that kind of news is really needed....we really did not need to see how distraught her father is, we all can at least understand without morbid tv reporting.

    that being said, I can only hope and pray justice is received for both families and they can let their loved ones rest in peace....
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    Aruba jail is not a 'walk in the park'. Only a bible to read. Family can
    visit very little, only visitor is your lawyer. Hole in floor to go to the
    bathroom and the cell is concrete. Not even sure you get a mattress.
    No air conditioning. Food is minimal.

    No tv, recreation rooms and stuff like the US jails have. Very sparse.
    Might have a concrete 'exercise' area.

    Don't kid yourself with the view - the 2 jails here I would never want
    to see the inside of!
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    I'm hopeful the conditions in Peru are even worse

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    They say yes. I would never want to be any jail in South America.
    Lots of human rights issues. Wonder if he will have to be
    in solitary (if they have it).

    I have seen too many documentaries about American in Latin
    American jails. Very scary stuff!

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    Hunt down for Joran in Chili
    3 Jun, 2010, 08:10 (GMT -04:00)


    ORANJESTAD — Justice in South America is in ‘hot pursuit’ of the fugitive Joran van der Sloot, according to the media there. The Chilean police confirmed Joran had crossed the Peruvian border into Chili on Monday May 31st. Apparently there is a hunt down going on in the Chilean harbor city Arica. Roadblocks around the city are to prevent him from escaping.

    According to the Telegraaf, Joran has confessed the murder of the 21-year old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramírez. The newspaper reports that during a telephone conversation, he admitted to having stabbed the girl to death. That telephone conversation was supposedly held with a Dutch poker-friend. Rumors on him committing suicide were buzzing about yesterday. However, these are totally unfounded.

    Extradition
    Meanwhile, there is uncertainty whether or not an international wanted notice was issued against Joran. The Dutch Ministry for Foreign Affairs was not able to confirm such this morning and the Public Prosecutor (OM) on Aruba is recanting its statement of yesterday, when they namely mentioned they had issued an international wanted notice. The ANP quotes a Chilean police inspector, who states that according to the international rules, the Chilean police cannot arrest Joran. “We can trace him, put him under surveillance and confiscate his passport”, Douglas Rodriquez said before the news agency. According to him, the Peruvian justice must submit a request to Chili to have him arrested – in which case Joran could be extradited to Peru.

    For that matter, there is no extradition treaty between the Netherlands and Peru, says Özlem Canel, spokeswoman of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the Netherlands. If Joran were to be arrested on Dutch territory due to an international wanted notice, it would be difficult to extradite him, she says. However, Ann Angela, spokeswoman of the OM on Aruba states that an extradition treaty obligates the person’s extradition. “But is could also occur on voluntary basis.” If Joran were to be arrested and ends up in the prison in Peru, there is no treaty with the Netherlands to let him serve his time in his home country.

    It was announced yesterday that the Peruvian police in Lima had found the body of Flores Ramírez. She had last been seen in the night of Saturday to Sunday in the company of Joran. Moreover, her body had been found in a hotel room that was registered in Joran’s name, according to the Peruvian authorities. Although in first instance it was reported that the young female had been stabbed to death, it was announced yesterday she had also had bruises and contusions on her body and face. The Telegraaf reports that death was caused by brain injury. Other media report on a blow to the neck. In the South American country there is no doubt about Joran being guilty. The Peruvian police confirmed he is the main suspect in the murder case.

    Poker
    According to reports, Joran had been in Peru to participate with a large poker tournament. He had traveled to Peru from Aruba via Columbia for the Latin American Poker Tour (LAPT) in Lima, which begins today. Joran, also a poker player, had supposedly met the victim on Saturday May 29th in the Atlantic City Casino. The casino’s monitoring images show Joran together with the victim. They had left the casino around four PM and headed for the TAC Hotel where they were seen entering room 309. Witnesses in the hotel state that several hours later Joran had left the hotel with a suitcase without checking out. He had then driven off in the victim’s pick-up, deserted the vehicle quite a distance from the hotel and had traveled further in the direction of the Chilean border, some 1000 kilometers south of Lima.

    The murder was front-page news yesterday on Aruba and in any case the talk of the day. Moreover, the case is given much attention in the international press as it is linked with the disappearance of the American teenager Natalee Holloway on Aruba, five years ago. Joran is still main suspect in the latter case and had been apprehended twice. However, due to lack of evidence, he was never charged, and had been released.

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    the view "of" the aruba prison is quite dramatic.
    the view "from" the prison is non existent for the prisoners.
    all of the stuff liz said about the prison on aruba is true.
    it is NOT a day at the beach.
    prison life for those incarcerated on aruba is not pleasant indeed.






    Quote Originally Posted by cindyo View Post
    Jail in Aruba = scenic
    Jail in Chile not so scenic....
    Dear Joran, they finally got ya'.
    Let the legal system do its thing right this time.

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    What a nice picture


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    So glad they finally nailed him, unfortunate that another girl had to die..Well hopefully Natalee's family can get some justice....he will never see the light of day if the girl he (alledgedly) killed in peru's family have any say I think they are pretty powerful down there....justice is sometimes sweet








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    Yeah I guess the prisons in aruba, or peru aren't like here huh...they don't get to exercise, have tvs and all the other RIGHTS...well maybe now he will tell the truth about what happened to natalee
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