This is a rather interesting statement. I hate to classify myself, but for the sake of full-disclosure on most major issues I consider myself a "small c" conservative with Libertarian leanings.

That being said, I'd have to say that I'm in the corner of the pro-choice folks. Does that make me pro-abortion? Not by any means. I would never be so brazen as to put myself in the shoes of someone having to make that decision, let alone suggesting (or mandating) how they should handle it.

How would I handle it personally? None of your business. Just as it's none of my business (or anyone else's) how you would handle it. Every situation is unique to the individuals involved, and to completely disregard circumstance is a foolhardy method of decision and/or policy making.

Besides, relative to your statement quoted above, doesn't "pro-life" really mean "anti-abortion"...it just sounds better?

I guess the Democrats aren't the only ones to embrace a euphemism when it suits their agenda.

Chip
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100% correct, pro life does mean anti abortion; and you are right, it does sound better. I did not mean to turn this thread into a pro choice/pro life debate, I was just trying to illustrate how BHO evaded a question that is at the crux of an issue that is important to a lot of folks. It is a touchy issue and I should have known better than to bring it up in this forum.

Somehow, I gained a day; thought it was Friday, not leaving town until Sat.

Bora Bora

It's all good. I guess I was just feeling a little feisty this morning.

And your right, I didn't help further the thread by taking it off-topic and for that I apologize.

Previous post notwithstanding, I'm firmly in the McCain/Palin camp, even more so after last night's speech.

Chip
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Cindyo, Thank you. I have said all along that abortion is a personal thing and have never believed the government, state or federal have any business making that kind of decision for me.

That being said, my other comment, and here goes.....I at one point in this discussion I made a comment about how charismatic BHO is, the same thing can be said for SP. The things that bother me are minute, but they still remain, how can you say they(who ever they are) are using the female thing against her when the Democrats almost had one running for the BIG P, not just the little vp. There is also the name calling and bringing family members into the fray. What ever everyone believes, BHO did defend SP and asked the media to keep family out of it. So, now,
who to believe will be the better president.....for one thing I'm not going to cast my vote for McCain because I like SP (which I don't) or am I going to vote for BHO because of JB (don't care for him either)...
so now am back at square one.....

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If USA were a publically traded stock, and you were a stockholder (and, if you're a US citizen I guess in a way you are), would you want Obama, McCain, Biden or Palin as your CEO. I think not.

I, for one, know I wouldn't. The only reason not to sell "USA stock" would be if you're looking at a long term investment (beyond four years). If we hold on our "USA stock" long enough, the stock will eventually rise. I just don't know if we've yet sunk to the bottom with the pathetic, ill-qualified, pool we have to choose from.

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An interesting perspective Rob, and in a way I am a "stockholder" in this nation. I remember my dad telling me when i got my first job as an adult to participate in any payroll savings plan that the company offered. I was lucky as it was a public utility and I was able to deduct up to 12% of my gross into a plan. I purchased stock in the company with half of my deduction and payroll savings bonds with the other. Given that this was 1973, it took a while for any funds to build up but I remember as if it were yesterday the day I got my paycheck along with a $25 savings bond. I went home and put the envelope in my nightstand, a few weeks later I got another and another until I started putting them in an old cigar box. as they matured, I cashed them in and bought more. Today, I still have that old cigar box stuffed with bonds in the bottom of my safe (I actually pulled them out to look at them when I read your post). And I still feel as if I have part ownership in our nation, and that "investment" will be best guarded by McCain/Palin.

Bora Bora

Uncle Dave,

That cigar box story is brilliant. I wish young people (and not so young people) would read that and take the lesson that with discipline and hard work the payoffs are huge. It doesn't happen all at once, but little by little, and you end up with a great reward.

And then...

As for being a stockholder in the United States of America... Well, if the stockholders participate they'll get the management team they want. And if they don't, someone else will put their team in place. Just remember, they are a direct reflection of the electorate. In other words, the people in Washington got there because the people put them there.

So, the shareholders need to reflect on their own desires. There's nothing more comical to me than listening to people whine about congress, but it's not their representative or senator who's a bad guy, it's the other ones. Sure, and the people in another state are saying the same thing. "Our rep is great, he got us all these goodies. Your rep is a bum." The goodies cost more when the government buys them for you. Better you buy them yourself.

Uh, oh. That would mean personal responsibility, which is the most profane concept in America today. de Tocqueville was right when he said that as soon as people figure out they can vote themselves money from a common pool, it'll be empty in no time.

If only more people would follow the Uncle Dave example of saving their money, providing for themselves, not relying on Big Brother's intervention... then the government would contract to the minimum power it actually requires, thereby releasing the creative and ambitious potential of its citizens.

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great post san nic!
andrea

Mine are in an antique wooden box. http://www.savingsbonds.gov/

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