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    Quote Originally Posted by Arubalisa View Post

    I think there should be signs posted at the cruise terminal so that cruise passengers are well aware that they can share palapas equally with hotel guests instead of paying to rent umbrellas.
    Absolutely! Great idea! I would be more than willing to share "my turf" with anyone who sauntered by. Just because my resort and, thus, my money paid for the palaypas doesn't mean that I should have any more right to them than any random squatter.

    I think that those of us staying at resorts should also have to share our bathrooms and showers with the cruise ship passengers. Maybe even raise the fees at the all inclusives and share the food and drink too. A little touch of current day America in Aruba!

    My only question is: when did Rosa Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan or Stephen Breyer move to Aruba?
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    My understanding is that this ruling has been on the books now for a couple of years, but this is a reaffirmation from the courts.
    (at least that is what my translator tells me)

    It will indeed lead to much discussion, and probably much frustrations.

    Rob o...i am laughing...you listed my SCOTUS favorites!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea J. View Post

    Rob o...i am laughing...you listed my SCOTUS favorites!
    Somehow I knew that, Andrea. Glad you could appreciate my attempt at humor and laugh it off.

    I'm certain you guessed that the four I named are my 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th favorites
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    if we did not have humor here.......we'd be a pretty sad bunch.

    maybe when others awaken from their turkey comas, there will be some more discussion.

    i maybe should have waited and posted it tomorrow, but when i got the email and then the follow up confirmation of translation, i did not think about the timing.
    either way, it will prove some interesting conversations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob o View Post
    Absolutely! Great idea! I would be more than willing to share "my turf" with anyone who sauntered by. Just because my resort and, thus, my money paid for the palaypas doesn't mean that I should have any more right to them than any random squatter.

    I think that those of us staying at resorts should also have to share our bathrooms and showers with the cruise ship passengers. Maybe even raise the fees at the all inclusives and share the food and drink too. A little touch of current day America in Aruba!

    My only question is: when did Rosa Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan or Stephen Breyer move to Aruba?
    Rob... When you get that food and drink extension worked out, please deliver a plate of chicken wings to my pup tent around 3:00ish.. I'll have it set up right in front of your palapa. And make sure Justice Ruth gets her afternoon mud slide while you're at it. Where's that shower located?

    WINK! WINK! WINK!
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    For those of you who may have noticed the blue concrete stanchions along the beach (they're about eight feet tall and a foot or more in diameter, pretty ornate in design) those markers indicate the extent of the public beach. They are about 100 feet from the water. So, without being there right now, I would guess that the first four rows at the Surf are impacted. The rest are within the Surf "property". By my recollection, the Surf has the only beach deep enough to have some palaypas that aren't impacted. The value of palaypas in the "low rent district" just went up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob o View Post
    For those of you who may have noticed the blue concrete stanchions along the beach (they're about eight feet tall and a foot or more in diameter, pretty ornate in design) those markers indicate the extent of the public beach. They are about 100 feet from the water. So, without being there right now, I would guess that the first four rows at the Surf are impacted. The rest are within the Surf "property". By my recollection, the Surf has the only beach deep enough to have some palaypas that aren't impacted. The value of palaypas in the "low rent district" just went up!
    Or maybe the Surf and others will remove those first few rows of palapas and open more beach. I think part of the reason Palm Beach seems so crowded is the close proximity of the palapas and water sport rental tents to the water line. I'm sure the price would go up, because nobody's going to lose any money, but it might open things up a bit. I can already see fights breaking out over ownership during the day. If I came back to find squatters in my place it would get ugly quick. On the other hand, it might be nice to randomly grab the palapa of choice at the resort of choice for a few hours.

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    Being able to reserve a palapa for shade on the beach at my resort is one of my favorite things about Aruba. I will be interested to see how this is enforced. What I woild hope happens is that things stay like they are now, but there will always be that one jerk that says nope these are public I can sit here. Maybe common courtesy will reign for the most part? If a palapa is open with no towells or belongings, I dont care who uses it, but if my towels are there while I run to get lunch or take a dip in the water, I really hope someone doesnt just swoop in.

    My concern would be maintenance of the palapas. If hotels are not making revenue, and having to deal with complaints from their paying guests, are they going to continue to maintain the structures? When we were there earlier this month the crazy wind storm bkew a few over. Who will take care of this if there is no benefit to the hotel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traceyd14 View Post
    Being able to reserve a palapa for shade on the beach at my resort is one of my favorite things about Aruba. I will be interested to see how this is enforced. What I woild hope happens is that things stay like they are now, but there will always be that one jerk that says nope these are public I can sit here. Maybe common courtesy will reign for the most part? If a palapa is open with no towells or belongings, I dont care who uses it, but if my towels are there while I run to get lunch or take a dip in the water, I really hope someone doesnt just swoop in.

    My concern would be maintenance of the palapas. If hotels are not making revenue, and having to deal with complaints from their paying guests, are they going to continue to maintain the structures? When we were there earlier this month the crazy wind storm bkew a few over. Who will take care of this if there is no benefit to the hotel?
    The hotels could do away with the palapas altogether and offer a service where they set up an umbrella, cooler and chairs for the guests (and, thus, bypassing the 'fixed structure' ruling).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob o View Post
    I think that those of us staying at resorts should also have to share our bathrooms and showers with the cruise ship passengers. Maybe even raise the fees at the all inclusives and share the food and drink too. A little touch of current day America in Aruba!
    In the interest of FAIRNESS, the resort guest should be forced to provide food and beverage to those they are sharing their palapa with. Fair is fair and the evil rich need to be forced to pay their fair share.

    Capitalism only exploits people. Socialism is the great equalizer. If you can afford to stay at a resort on the beach you can SURELY afford to provide food and beverage to those less fortunate. Why should you be able to guzzle pina coladas under your cushy palapa when the tourists who are not as fortunate to be staying at a beach resort have to drink tap water?

    Eat drink and be Merry, make sure you share and spread the wealth. While they are it the government should charge a higher surcharge on airline tickets based upon where you are staying. If you are fortunate enough to be staying at a beach resort, you surely can afford more for that airline ticket? Use the supplement for beach resort passengers to offer low cost or no cost tickets to those guests not staying at beach resorts.

    FWIW, I already have skin cancer and have no right to a palapa anymore than anyone else, regardless of WHERE I am staying. I will gladly give up my palapa to anyone who demands it. Some things are NOT worth fighting over. Just don't complain when I set up my chair in front of your palapa and block your view of the ocean. You cannot have it both ways. And if I play my music too loud or talk too loud, it is a public beach so I should be allowed to do what I want, where I want, when I want. After all it IS all about ME.
    Last edited by Arubalisa; 11-28-2014 at 10:14 AM.

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