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    I guess we won't be able to see it in Canada and the US. I am sure there will be clips on the news.
    happiness is going to Aruba with your adult kids because they still want to come with their parents

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    try this link
    turn your volume up so you can hear the conversation between the crime reporter and natalee's mom

    it is sickening
    and beth says repeatedly
    enough is enough


    http://www.vkmag.com/videos/videos_r...talees_moeder/

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    ABC has obtained the exclusive rights to broadcast the entire show tomorrow night at 9:30pm on a special edition of 20/20.
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    thanks,
    I will look for our ABC station.
    happiness is going to Aruba with your adult kids because they still want to come with their parents

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    I will also be watching tomorrow night. If JVS is being truthful in this recent interview, I was completely fooled by him when he was last interviewed by Greta Van Susteren. I was convinced, at that time, by his demeanor and his "candidness" that he had nothing to do with her disappearance.
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    ABC News:
    Former Holloway Suspect: 'I Know What Happened' ... She's Dead


    "ABC News has obtained exclusive U.S. rights to this stunning new information caught on tape and will air a 90-minute special edition of "20/20: The Final Hours of Natalee Holloway" Monday at 9:30 p.m. ET, as well as special coverage of the case on "Good Morning America" on Monday. "

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    The Dutch top-lawyer Gerard Spong expressed his doubts about the use of ‘evidence’ collected with a hidden camera.

    The question whether the evidence with a hidden camera is illegal and whether the Aruban justice is allowed to use that, is ‘contriving’. He then refers to the Netherlands’ sentence by the European Court in Straatsburg on October 25, 2007 for the use of secret tape recordings.

    “That was according to the European Court, a violation of the right on privacy. This court decided that monitoring and recording conversations by a private person in the context of and on behalf of an official investigation with the use of technical assistance of the police, is inadmissible.”
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    According to Spong, even without the assistance of the police, penetrating the personal life with visual technical means is also inadmissible.

    “But if that illegal evidence is given to justice on a silver plate, it may, according to the verdict, still be used in some cases. I am not certain whether this is also the case here, but it is indeed exiting.”


    Besides, whether Van der Sloot had lied in his ‘confession’ or not, it still is not a confession about murder, says the lawyer. According to Antillean law, a person that buries, hides, carries off, or takes off a body with the intention of concealing the death, will be sentenced to a maximum of 6 months imprisonment or a fine of a maximum of 300 guilders. It is not possible to keep the person in custody for such fact. Spong is wondering why, after professional judicial advice of his father, Joran van der Sloot, while knowing that the criminal consequences for him are so relatively small, has opted to remain silent in the Holloway-case.

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    From: DAG, 04-02-2007 (www.dag.nl)

    A Dutch newspaper had an interview with Joran's alleged helper Daury this monday morning. I'll give a short version of the story in English:

    Daury denies all connection with the case. ‘Dat meen je niet. Nee, dat meen je niet. Echt? Maar dat klopt helemaal niet’, ('You don't mean that. No, you don't mean that. Really? But that is totally untrue') is the first reaction of Daury who is 21 years old. They even had SMS (text messaging) contact last saturday and Joran had told Daury nothing about the accusations. Daury was studying in Rotterdam (The Netherlands) at the time Natalee disappeared.

    The newspaper got Daury's number from Joran because he felt guilty having named him. Before the program was broadcasted Joran had already retracted his statement and said that he has made up things. Peter R. de Vries has his doubts as well about the alleged help of Daury. At different times Joran mentions different ages and another last name for Daury. To the newspaper Joran has declared that he only knows one Daury and doesn't know his last name.

    According to Daury, he has no connection with the case. He has known Joran since he was 15 through a school friend of Joran. 'We played football together. We weren't that close as friends. I never went out to Carlos 'n Charlies with Joran and his friends.' Daury left to study in The Netherlands in 2004 when he was 17 and has had little contact with Joran since then.

    Actually, Daury says, I have gotten to know Joran only really well since december 2007, after Joran had been detained for the second time. They played poker together at the Palm Beach casino's. He says he has never asked him about Natalee.

    Since 2004, Daury has lived in Rotterdam, The Netherlands, almost constantly. He has only been to Aruba for short holidays. On may 31, 2005, the day Natalee disappeared, he says that he was not in Aruba. At the end of december 2005 he went back to Aruba for the first time. When asked by the newspaper if Daury has a boat he says laughing: ‘Nee, natuurlijk niet’ ('No, ofcourse not').

    To emphasize his claim that he was in The Netherlands all the time when Natalee disappeared Daury mentions the fact that he worked out at the gym almost every day, that he had a part time job and that he went to school during that time. This has not yet been verified by the newspaper. Daury: ‘Maar justitie kan dat allemaal natrekken. Dan weten ze meteen dat ik er niets mee te maken heb en dat Joran daarover heeft gelogen.’ ('But the justice department can verify all that. Then they will know that I have nothing to do with it and that Joran has lied about it').

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arubalisa View Post
    Coen, do you know where this investigation stands with the Aruban authorities?

    Is it still a possibility that with this video, the Aruba police may now arrest Joran yet again?

    Is it possible that with his father being in the judiciary in Aruba, that he has an inside track on what is happening with the investigation or is it a separate entity as it is here in the US?
    Sorry ArubaLisa, I don't have all the answers for you and I don't want to speculate either. I try to give a recap of what has been aired here in The Netherlands as factual as possible.

    What I have learned from Dutch media so far is that the prosecutor's office has not yet filed a warrant for Joran's or Daury's arrest. The basis for that is still too small. Joran has not confessed a murder. He states that Natalee was already dead and that he has tried to dispose of her body with the help of his friend Daury. In a separate interview with Daury, published this morning, Daury from his side denies all connections with the case. So were do you stand as prosecutor?

    The Aruban authorities have fired up the investigation again. The 'Joran tapes' certainly help them but I am not convinced that they will have enough for an arrest, let alone a conviction.

    About his father having an inside track: I just don't know.

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