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    Discussion of US Customs/2 security checkpoints @ Aruba Airport

    there is a 2nd security because, you had your hands on your checked luggage and could have had your hands on something illegal prior to US customs and then bag drop off.... and you went thru duty free area, stores etc where you might possibly have picked up and or stashed something that you should not have
    so, going thru that 2nd security point is very necessary.

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    sadly it is commonplace for many of the people from all over the world to use that word.
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    Let's just say it got a little too busy lounging by the pool to make daily reports. It’s a tough job but someone had to do it . We only went to the beach once because of the fierce winds. No great loss since the Tropicana has two excellent pools to enjoy. We went downtown one morning where Marj the Bargainer hit the unsuspecting sellers at the various markets. We had lunch that day at Iguana Joes which had good food but was a tad crowded, an outside table is a great vantage point for watching Oranjestad go by. We actually made a minor profit at the Crystal Casino. The next evening, after eating in, we went to the high rise area where Marj the Bargainer went on attack once again while I watched the evening people go by. We stopped in Hard Rock for a snack and to listen to the band. Radisson's casino was not good to us. On our last night we went back to the high rise area and had dinner at Casa Tua.
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    • There are ugly Americans. Witnessed one gentleman hock up a big one and let it fly right in front of La Cabana, much to the amusement/disgust of the hotel personnel at the entrance. Numerous times I heard my fellow Americans loudly throwing f-bombs.
    • Aruba’s slogan may be “One Happy Island”, however, someone was not happy on June 13th. As we were headed for the airport to leave our cab driver took us on a long convoluted route to the airport because protesters were burning a car in front of Parliament. Of course that little item will not make it into the English language newspapers.
    • If we hadn’t stopped halfway to eat at Sbarro’s we probably would have made the departure lounge in under 45 minutes on a Friday.
    • Why on earth is there a second security check after US Customs? Makes no sense to me, especially since they are conducted by the same security company using the same protocol.
    • We had three good lunches and a good pizza at Pizza Bob’s. The pizza is not for you if you are a NYC or Chicago purist.

    We had an excellent time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea J. View Post
    there is a 2nd security because, you had your hands on your checked luggage and could have had your hands on something illegal prior to US customs and then bag drop off.... and you went thru duty free area, stores etc where you might possibly have picked up and or stashed something that you should not have
    so, going thru that 2nd security point is very necessary...

    Are you suggesting that if our luggage went right to the plane after security and we didn't have to reclaim it between inspections, there wouldn't have to be two security checks?

    The obvious question is, why can't our luggage make a non-stop trip from where we give it to the airline directly to the plane as it does everywhere else?

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    this is the 3rd time i have edited this as i am not making much sense.

    I don't mean to ramble.


    But, we cannot have US Customs in Aruba without the 2nd security stop.
    If the bags went right thru from check in to plane without us dragging them thru US Customs, there'd be no use for Customs in Aruba and we'd have to do Customs at our airport in the USA.


    If the bags made their way non stop to the plane, it'd be a convenience at the beginning of our journey home, but not upon arrival.


    By having the convenience of US Customs at QB Airport, creates a breach in the security....needing that 2nd security for us before we get to the gate.


    now, i may be all wrong in this matter about all of this...someone please correct me if i am


    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM View Post
    Are you suggesting that if our luggage went right to the plane after security and we didn't have to reclaim it between inspections, there wouldn't have to be two security checks?

    The obvious question is, why can't our luggage make a non-stop trip from where we give it to the airline directly to the plane as it does everywhere else?
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    which makes me wonder..............what is the point of having 2 security checks? wouldn't it make more sense just to have the one AFTER US Customs?


    i think that we could have this discussion in the airline category and give rob his aruba story back to him.

    sorry i went off topic

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    I prefer USC do their inspection in Aruba. But why can't they inspect the bags from the airline counter, behind the scenes then send them on to the plane? It's the part where we have to reclaim them half way through that's the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM View Post
    I prefer USC do their inspection in Aruba. But why can't they inspect the bags from the airline counter, behind the scenes then send them on to the plane? It's the part where we have to reclaim them half way through that's the issue.
    The answer is quite simple.

    If you travel abroad, lets say Mexico. And you are returning to the US: you have to go first through the airport security in Mexico. Then you board the plan. When you arrive in the US, you get your bags and you go through the airport security in the US.

    Aruba is one of a few countries where you have an exception: the US airport security checkpoint is IN Aruba.

    When you go to Aruba airport, you go first through Aruba airport security. Instead of boarding your plan, you just WALK a little distance within the Aruba airport where you come to the building with the big sign which reads something like: "You are now entering USA territory". That is when you actually go trough US airport security checkpoint.

    The beauty of it: When you then actually arrive in the USA, you do NOT go through US airport security again. You just grab your bags and are free to leave the airport.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CK1 View Post
    The answer is quite simple.

    If you travel abroad, lets say Mexico. And you are returning to the US: you have to go first through the airport security in Mexico. Then you board the plan. When you arrive in the US, you get your bags and you go through the airport security in the US.

    Aruba is one of a few countries where you have an exception: the US airport security checkpoint is IN Aruba.

    When you go to Aruba airport, you go first through Aruba airport security. Instead of boarding your plan, you just WALK a little distance within the Aruba airport where you come to the building with the big sign which reads something like: "You are now entering USA territory". That is when you actually go trough US airport security checkpoint.

    The beauty of it: When you then actually arrive in the USA, you do NOT go through US airport security again. You just grab your bags and are free to leave the airport.

    Hope that helps.
    CK1 thanks. I know all that. What is at issue is that this could be done without your having to reclaim your luggage part way through then having to go through a second security checkpoint ONLY BECAUSE YOU RECLAIMED YOUR BAGGAGE.

    Consider this: You check in at the airline counter and give up your luggage. Your luggage disappears and is subjected to security processing as it would be in any other airport. From there it goes directly to the plane. Meanwhile, after you give up your luggage to the airline, you go through the US security checkpoint and go on to your gate. Same results but only one checkpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM View Post
    CK1 thanks. I know all that. What is at issue is that this could be done without your having to reclaim your luggage part way through then having to go through a second security checkpoint ONLY BECAUSE YOU RECLAIMED YOUR BAGGAGE.

    Consider this: You check in at the airline counter and give up your luggage. Your luggage disappears and is subjected to security processing as it would be in any other airport. From there it goes directly to the plane. Meanwhile, after you give up your luggage to the airline, you go through the US security checkpoint and go on to your gate. Same results but only one checkpoint.
    You are welcome, Andy. I see you point. It would make sense. My only explanation is that it actually involves two countries: Aruba and USA.

    What might be good enough for Aruba to let a bag go through might not qualify for a US security checkpoint. If they see something in the bag, they still could insist in opening it. It happened several times to my Mom when she came from Germany: the German airport accepted her bad but when she arrived in Atlanta, they insisted to open it. Nothing special was in there, after messing her stuff up and just looking, it went through. She always hated it when they did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CK1 View Post
    You are welcome, Andy. I see you point. It would make sense. My only explanation is that it actually involves two countries: Aruba and USA.

    What might be good enough for Aruba to let a bag go through might not qualify for a US security checkpoint. If they see something in the bag, they still could insist in opening it. It happened several times to my Mom when she came from Germany: the German airport accepted her bad but when she arrived in Atlanta, they insisted to open it. Nothing special was in there, after messing her stuff up and just looking, it went through. She always hated it when they did it.
    You missed my point. What you are calling security I am calling immigration and customs. I was not questioning that. I was questioning the need for a second security checkpoint after US Customs where you remove shoes send it and your hand luggage through xray, etc.

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    I think where the confusion comes in is you are dealing with two separate systems and neither will completely trust (or should) each other. Aruba wants you to go through security before you board a plane...Aruba wants to check your bags before the bags are put on the plane...


    USA want to check your bags before they come into America and they want YOU to go through security if you touched your bags and ARE FLYING AGAIN. Thats the key...if you were flying out of Aruba and customs was in the US like most countries after you fly out of Aruba and had your bags scanned and went through security when you land in the US you would pick up your luggage and go through customs. If the airport you landed in was your final destination (not boarding another plane) you would not go through another security. But If you were boarding another plane you would do the 2nd security because you touched your luggage. With Aruba it's a blessing to not have to do customs and the double security in Aruba and the US. But it does seem weird to do it so close to each other you will always have to do the double security because you will always be boarding a plane after touching your luggage for customs...not sure if this makes sence

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