Refinery starting up again

*Arubalisa* · 11-04-2009, 01:16 PM

"Refinery starting up again
November 2, 2009, 07:40 (GMT -04:00)
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_64597.php

SAN NICOLAS - The Refinery at San Nicolas will become partially operational again. In this, owner and operator Valero potential buyer wants Petro China to observe the refinery's operation and its status. The starting up of facilities will take approximately three weeks.

The definite decision on Whether the Chinese state-owned oil company will take over the refinery will be made after the observation. Meanwhile, Valero is looking for contract workers to operate the relevant partial facilities.

It was only last week, when persistent rumors had circulated that Valero and Petro China had agreed on the sale. Representatives of Petro China had visited Premier Mike Eman last Thursday. He had indicated that the number of Chinese employees, which required Petro China "was less than anticipated. He had no indication on the Chinese wishes regarding tax arrangements.

Former Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) was announced not so long ago that The negotiations with Petro China have foundered, as the Chinese company had requested the employment of a substantial number of their own workers. In addition, Petro China had supposedly demanded the same tax advantages and exemptions environment, which Coastal as Valero's predecessor had enjoyed at the time."

*Andrea J.* · 11-04-2009, 02:28 PM

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i bet there are huge sighs of relief there! and of course many fingers crossed![/B]

*Andrea J.* · 11-04-2009, 07:17 PM

OMGosh everyone!!!! This refinery trial-like reopening is a BIG thing. I am shocked that there has been no chatter on this in this thread.

Eagle Beach Boy · 11-04-2009, 08:09 PM

I have been following the Refinery story.
This to me is just another talk with possible buyers. I wonder if it does go through how many Chinese will actually be brought in to take jobs away from the Arubans. They will be paid a lot less.

SanNic44 · 11-04-2009, 10:46 PM

Petro China...

... not the best suitor.

The island will forever be changed should this come to pass.

44

*Andrea J.* · 11-04-2009, 11:33 PM

i agree they are not the best suitor

that being said, if the refinery is sold to china petro and the refinery is up and running it will bring "some" jobs to the island.

with those jobs MAYBE some local folks will be hired.
the local economy will be better as the employees will need housing, food and entertainment.
those employees will contribute to the local economy

NOT a good thing for the arubans who may lose their jobs to the folks that may be brought it.........BUT.........the place will be up and running instead of sitting and everyone suffering as a result.

some good may happen
some may benefit
certainly better than having the place sit idle as it is now.

lizzardo · 11-05-2009, 08:49 AM

My personal concern about Petrol China is the track record the Chinese have
on environmental matters. Have a ton of other concerns as well...

Sunny Beaches · 11-05-2009, 05:50 PM

When the refinery shut down(Dw was in oil business 26 yrs.) I've heard her talk a little about shut downs, (of course I don't know what she's talking about)?, but it seems the first thing she will ask was it a cold shut down

11-04-2009, 01:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Arubalisa Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 6,604 Images: 68	Refinery starting up again "Refinery starting up again November 2, 2009, 07:40 (GMT -04:00) http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_64597.php SAN NICOLAS - The Refinery at San Nicolas will become partially operational again. In this, owner and operator Valero potential buyer wants Petro China to observe the refinery's operation and its status. The starting up of facilities will take approximately three weeks. The definite decision on Whether the Chinese state-owned oil company will take over the refinery will be made after the observation. Meanwhile, Valero is looking for contract workers to operate the relevant partial facilities. It was only last week, when persistent rumors had circulated that Valero and Petro China had agreed on the sale. Representatives of Petro China had visited Premier Mike Eman last Thursday. He had indicated that the number of Chinese employees, which required Petro China "was less than anticipated. He had no indication on the Chinese wishes regarding tax arrangements. Former Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) was announced not so long ago that The negotiations with Petro China have foundered, as the Chinese company had requested the employment of a substantial number of their own workers. In addition, Petro China had supposedly demanded the same tax advantages and exemptions environment, which Coastal as Valero's predecessor had enjoyed at the time." __________________ Aruba Bound! ~ Hoosier Kitties ~ Our-Cruises ~ Blogging to Aruba Back to paradise Trip #19

11-04-2009, 02:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Andrea J. Aruba since 1979 Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: eagle beach alto vista chapel arashi beach amsterdam manor beach bar LePonderosa or Gold Mine Ranch about 30' off shore @ eagle beach..ahhhh Posts: 4,203 Images: 40	[ i bet there are huge sighs of relief there! and of course many fingers crossed![/B] __________________ Aruba Jan 21 for 2 weeks!

11-04-2009, 07:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Andrea J. Aruba since 1979 Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: eagle beach alto vista chapel arashi beach amsterdam manor beach bar LePonderosa or Gold Mine Ranch about 30' off shore @ eagle beach..ahhhh Posts: 4,203 Images: 40	OMGosh everyone!!!! This refinery trial-like reopening is a BIG thing. I am shocked that there has been no chatter on this in this thread. __________________ Aruba Jan 21 for 2 weeks!

11-04-2009, 08:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Eagle Beach Boy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eagle Beach Posts: 324	I have been following the Refinery story. This to me is just another talk with possible buyers. I wonder if it does go through how many Chinese will actually be brought in to take jobs away from the Arubans. They will be paid a lot less. __________________ "El Muchacho De Eagle Beach" *Eagle Beach Boy* *Ontario, Canada*

11-04-2009, 10:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
SanNic44 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Savaneta Posts: 728	Petro China... ... not the best suitor. The island will forever be changed should this come to pass. 44 __________________ Aruba's Novelist in Residence (sometimes) http://www.bentpage.wordpress.com/

11-04-2009, 11:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Andrea J. Aruba since 1979 Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: eagle beach alto vista chapel arashi beach amsterdam manor beach bar LePonderosa or Gold Mine Ranch about 30' off shore @ eagle beach..ahhhh Posts: 4,203 Images: 40	i agree they are not the best suitor that being said, if the refinery is sold to china petro and the refinery is up and running it will bring "some" jobs to the island. with those jobs MAYBE some local folks will be hired. the local economy will be better as the employees will need housing, food and entertainment. those employees will contribute to the local economy NOT a good thing for the arubans who may lose their jobs to the folks that may be brought it.........BUT.........the place will be up and running instead of sitting and everyone suffering as a result. some good may happen some may benefit certainly better than having the place sit idle as it is now. __________________ Aruba Jan 21 for 2 weeks!

11-05-2009, 08:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
lizzardo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 402	My personal concern about Petrol China is the track record the Chinese have on environmental matters. Have a ton of other concerns as well... __________________ Beautiful house in Arashi for sale! www.arashibeachhouse.com Aruba Kitten Rescue www.arubakitten.org

11-05-2009, 05:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sunny Beaches Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 276	When the refinery shut down(Dw was in oil business 26 yrs.) I've heard her talk a little about shut downs, (of course I don't know what she's talking about)?, but it seems the first thing she will ask was it a cold shut down