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    Ah but that is the beauty of the new government THEY ARE meeting with the people. For the very first time the taxi and small bus drivers sat down with one of the ministers to discuss their issues, etc. It was in the paper we get here with a big picture

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    THEY ARE meeting with the people.
    Now that is nice to hear.
    Things can only get better if that continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzardo View Post


    Do the Aruban people who live here and have a proud culture that they
    see being taken away from them every time someone gets
    paid off again and again? They are the ones that have the biggest
    say.

    I just hope that the new government is working on
    a 'plan' on how they want to handle the entire thing.

    Look at the Ritz Carlton website of the drawing. It's
    really ugly (IMHO).
    http://www.ritzcarlton.com/en/Proper...ba/Default.htm
    My sentiments exactly...while there may be jobs for the locals with the new hotel the downsides IMOO outrank the upsides....as you said, if the taxes actually are paid that helps, jobs, good, maybe a more upscale hotel....but is all of that worth what is taken away....windsurfing, turtle nesting, local hangout, view of the beach....I for one as an outsider stand with the locals....no Ritz please....the Riu is enough of a monstrosity !!!
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    Arrow Ritz Carlton does not comply with long lease agreement

    Ritz Carlton does not comply with long lease agreement

    9 Maart, 2010, 07:16 (GMT -04:00)
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    ORANJESTAD — The leased out terrain of Ritz-Carlton behind Fisherman’s Hut does not comply with the conditions of the long lease contract concluded with the government. The Minister of Infrastructure, Environment and Integration, Benny Sevinger (AVP) confirms the aforementioned in answer to the question from State-member Juan David Yrausquin (AVP).

    In his reply to the State-member, Sevinger indicates that the government will either cancel the option or declare the right of succession as annulled if one does not comply with the option or long lease conditions on time and in the case one has not applied for extension of the option on time. “In each individual case, one will have to view the possibilities to regain the respective rights on the parcels concerned”, says Sevinger. He stresses that the government does not intend to grant more terrains for the construction of condominiums or hotels. “Projects, such as boutique hotels, will be evaluated per project.”

    The day after his appointment as parliamentarian, in November last year, Yrausquin had presented States-Chairman Andy Lee (AVP) a series of questions for Minister Sevinger. Amongst others, Yrausquin had requested a detailed list of all leased out terrains for the construction of hotels and/or condominiums, which had not (yet) complied with the conditions of the long lease agreement or the long lease deed. The State-member received a detailed answer yesterday. As yet, the long lease terrain measuring 45,569 square meters, leased out to project developer Hotelco is the only long lease terrain that is actually granted. Yrausquin also inquired after the current number of terrains that had been granted in option. The number of option holders with a project in the pipeline amount to as much as eighteen. The terrains vary in size, from 2009 square meters for a condominium project of Sandra NV on the terrain where restaurant Le Dôme had previously been located, up to 1,301,000 square meters for the construction of the Sunrise Rock hotel with golf course in Seroe Colorado. For that matter, the long lease agreement signed for that project has expired, and the long lease deed was not executed. Six of the eighteen projects in option have a long lease agreement that has already expired or not been drawn up yet, or still need to execute the deed before the notary-public. Two projects, boutique condominium hotel, The Boardwalk in Bakval, and the ‘business/leisure’ hotel of Rosim Development in Eagle both have a signed agreement and are only waiting for their long lease deed.

    Yrausquin also inquired after a summary of adjustments regarding building regulations and purposes from condominiums to hotels, which had been made during the past three years. Minister Sevinger responded by presenting five adjusted zoning plans. For instance, Divi Village and Divi Links switched from a timeshare project to the construction of 44 condominiums, option holder Brown Golf and Leisure changed from a golf course to a condominium project, and option holder Sandra NV switched from a restaurant to a condominium at the previous location of Le Dôme."

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    This be very good news.
    For more people than one might imagine.
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    Construction of Ritz-Carlton proceeds
    22 Maart, 2010, 09:28 (GMT -04:00) http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_70244.php

    ORANJESTAD — The construction activities for the five-star hotel of Ritz Carlton behind Fisherman’s Hut have started. Clearance preparations on the terrain for the back garden of the hotel had already started last week.

    By our reporter:
    Ariën Rasmijn

    It regards the terrain between the Marriott hotel and the second exit to Fisherman’s Hut. An excavator cleared the first part of the terrain last Saturday. According to foreman Carlos Rodriguez of constructor DHS, it is the only part that will be cleared for the time being. Partitions will be placed along the cleared terrain as well this week. Afterwards, the work containers from the constructors, amongst others Croon, Saint Contractors and DHC will be placed there. Rodriguez gave Amigoe a tour of the area where the hotel will be built between now and 2013. All cadastral markings had already been made, including the future sidewalk along the hotel. The hotel will be situated directly behind the eastern part of the beach and a considerable stretch behind the main road. The road will be restructured via a large traffic circle and be built at the current junction opposite the entrance of the Marriott hotel. According to Rogriguez, the final construction plans are less extensive than the original intention, despite the size of the project.
    Excavator stopped

    Campaigners against the arrival of the Ritz-Carlton were also present during the initial clearance activities. Amy Yrausquin-Roos, wife of AVP State-member Juan David Yrausquin, made a few calls to see if and how one could legally halt the activities. Her husband, also distinct opponent of the arrival of the five-star hotel, only has one vote in the parliament. “He is also given only twenty minutes on the floor. The decision is actually up to the government and Minister Sevinger to take action. For the time being, Hotelco is indeed allowed to start clearing the terrain”, says Amy. A mere handful of people showed up later on. One of them prevails upon the constructions workers to stop the excavator. Eventually he succeeds in contacting foreman Rodriguez who promptly endorses his request. When Rodriguez arrives at the site shortly afterwards, it appears the workers had actually finished their activities for the day. Actually, they had stopped an hour earlier because of the protest action. He promises his workers there is more work to be done on Monday, “when the trenches for the partitions will be dug.” According to him, the campaigners are entitled to protest. “This is your country and your nature. Fight for it”.

    Nevertheless, he points out that considerable area’s of nature are being destroyed on the entire island for relatively small development projects. “Large terrains with old trees are cleared in Paradera and Santa Cruz. Nobody opposes that. Regarding this hotel? You should have started demonstrating a long time ago – when one had started working on the hotel strip.”
    Online protest

    A protest action had been announced via Facebook before Sunday morning, but was cancelled due to such short notice. Despite this difficult start, one can certainly observe a counter movement on the internet, stretching beyond the borders. “We receive mails from tourists and the online petition already received more than one-hundred signatures today”, a young campaigner said last Sunday at the terrain behind Fisherman’s Hut. “For example, we receive mails from timeshare holders who are sympathetic with this beach and feel cheated. One had promised there would be no more hotels.” More local opponents are also rebelling. An angler from Noord had posted pamphlets in the neighborhood, expressing his displeasure on the attitude of government and parliamentarians. According to him, many of the voters from Noord consider the disappearance of Fisherman’s Hut as thanks for their trust. “Some State-members say they are against, but nothing else happens.” It is reported that local newspapers had also refused to publish his argument.

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    There is only so much space for new construction and development of high rises or any other hotels. As noted, "Aruba" is a small Island and has so many things to see and do; without over development.

    More hotels...no...too many now.

    Just an opinion...which seems to concur with many already posted.

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    Construction of Ritz-Carlton proceeds

    Construction of Ritz-Carlton proceeds
    22 Maart, 2010, 09:28 (GMT -04:00)

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    The excavator of constructor DHS, working on the terrain of the Ritz-Carlton Hotel behind Fisherman’s Hut. ORANJESTAD — The construction activities for the five-star hotel of Ritz Carlton behind Fisherman’s Hut have started. Clearance preparations on the terrain for the back garden of the hotel had already started last week.
    By our reporter:
    Ariën Rasmijn
    It regards the terrain between the Marriott hotel and the second exit to Fisherman’s Hut. An excavator cleared the first part of the terrain last Saturday. According to foreman Carlos Rodriguez of constructor DHS, it is the only part that will be cleared for the time being. Partitions will be placed along the cleared terrain as well this week. Afterwards, the work containers from the constructors, amongst others Croon, Saint Contractors and DHC will be placed there. Rodriguez gave Amigoe a tour of the area where the hotel will be built between now and 2013. All cadastral markings had already been made, including the future sidewalk along the hotel. The hotel will be situated directly behind the eastern part of the beach and a considerable stretch behind the main road. The road will be restructured via a large traffic circle and be built at the current junction opposite the entrance of the Marriott hotel. According to Rogriguez, the final construction plans are less extensive than the original intention, despite the size of the project.
    Excavator stopped
    Campaigners against the arrival of the Ritz-Carlton were also present during the initial clearance activities. Amy Yrausquin-Roos, wife of AVP State-member Juan David Yrausquin, made a few calls to see if and how one could legally halt the activities. Her husband, also distinct opponent of the arrival of the five-star hotel, only has one vote in the parliament. “He is also given only twenty minutes on the floor. The decision is actually up to the government and Minister Sevinger to take action. For the time being, Hotelco is indeed allowed to start clearing the terrain”, says Amy. A mere handful of people showed up later on. One of them prevails upon the constructions workers to stop the excavator. Eventually he succeeds in contacting foreman Rodriguez who promptly endorses his request. When Rodriguez arrives at the site shortly afterwards, it appears the workers had actually finished their activities for the day. Actually, they had stopped an hour earlier because of the protest action. He promises his workers there is more work to be done on Monday, “when the trenches for the partitions will be dug.” According to him, the campaigners are entitled to protest. “This is your country and your nature. Fight for it”.
    Nevertheless, he points out that considerable area’s of nature are being destroyed on the entire island for relatively small development projects. “Large terrains with old trees are cleared in Paradera and Santa Cruz. Nobody opposes that. Regarding this hotel? You should have started demonstrating a long time ago – when one had started working on the hotel strip.”
    A protest action had been announced via Facebook before Sunday morning, but was cancelled due to such short notice. Despite this difficult start, one can certainly observe a counter movement on the internet, stretching beyond the borders. “We receive mails from tourists and the online petition already received more than one-hundred signatures today”, a young campaigner said last Sunday at the terrain behind Fisherman’s Hut. “For example, we receive mails from timeshare holders who are sympathetic with this beach and feel cheated. One had promised there would be no more hotels.” More local opponents are also rebelling. An angler from Noord had posted pamphlets in the neighborhood, expressing his displeasure on the attitude of government and parliamentarians. According to him, many of the voters from Noord consider the disappearance of Fisherman’s Hut as thanks for their trust. “Some State-members say they are against, but nothing else happens.” It is reported that local newspapers had also refused to publish his argument.

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    Sounds like Aruba can't decide how it wants to go..Timeshares, with lots of visitors, like the Costa Del Sol, or Posh 5 star like Barbados. The sad thing is, if they try to do both, they will end up with a mish mash which will satisy nobody, and anger everybody.

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    today's AMIGOE

    Government-party AVP: Motion against construction of Ritz-Carlton
    29 Maart, 2010, 08:19 (GMT -04:00)

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    ORANJESTAD — The entire government-party AVP still hopes to halt the construction of the five-star Ritz-Carlton hotel through a motion. One is still working on the motion but in a press report, the party already announced that the motion would be introduced during the follow-up debate in the parliament on the granting of terrains for construction of hotels and condominiums.

    With the motion, the party opposes the decision of their government who had recently given the green light for the hotel project. At the time, the cabinet stated it could not wriggle out of the contract that had been concluded during the latter days of the MEP-government. According to Premier Mike Eman (AVP), a breach of contract would cost millions.
    However, the AVP-party now wants the government to halt the building activities immediately and withdraw the construction permit.
    In the meantime, the government is to obtain external legal advice to see whether the contract could still be terminated. In addition, the green party wants one to examine how the terrain – where the hotel is to arise – could be preserved for anglers and water sportsmen.

    According to State-member, Juan David Yrausquin (AVP), one is still working on the exact contents of the motion.
    The latter will be introduced during the continuance of the States-debate. “The motion will include many more items, but that will become clear during the public meeting.”
    The debate should have continued last Friday, but States-chairman Andy Lee (AVP) postponed such until further notice. “I decided to adjourn the meeting as emotions were still roused and to avoid confrontations or even scuffles.” The meeting had been adjourned last week Wednesday after a verbal confrontation in the corridors between State-members Yrausquin and Xiomara Maduro (MEP). This had developed into a shouting match in the parliament room between both parliamentarians. A new date for the debate has not been fixed yet. Lee: “It will not be possible this week and we will be leaving for the Netherlands afterwards with a States-delegation to discuss the National laws. This States-meeting could be continued after our return on April 16th.” Last week, the parliament-chairman stated that the mutual atmosphere within the States is ‘becoming worse’. He addressed the party-leaders of both AVP and opposition-party MEP on this matter.

    In the meantime, one is also searching for legal ways outside the States to halt the arrival of the Ritz-Carlton. Environmental institute Fanapa is currently evaluating whether there is any point in starting a legal case against Ritz-Carlton. “However, nothing has actually been determined yet,” says Chairman Ramsay Acosta. “We are currently obtaining legal advice.” He confirms that several people, including lawyers, are thinking along with his initiative, in the backgroun

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