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Arubalisa
09-22-2008, 01:01 PM
Dh drove around Saturday afternoon looking to fill his gas tank. Finally at the fifth station, he was able to find gasoline. Came home, switched cars and filled my car as well. I don't drive much, but will give him a cushion to get back and forth to work if need be. Living in a rural area, there are not many stations so trying to find five and then one with gas was a challenge. Just remarkable, all the "little" things we do not think of...

Gas shortage makes finding fuel a challenge
By BRIAN FEAGANS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Sunday, September 21, 2008 Updated: 11:35 a.m. September 22, 2008

Gas remained hard to find around much of metro Atlanta on Monday morning, as lingering supply complications in the wake of two hurricanes had many motorists driving miles out of their way in a search for fuel.

Overnight deliveries replenished supplies, at least partially, at some stations that were closed Sunday. But others remained dry. And some that did have fuel, like the Shell station at Clairmont and North Decatur roads near Decatur, were running out as cars lined up during the morning rush hour.

“I should be out, maybe before noon,” said manager Andy Jiw, shortly after putting a bag over another nozzle. By 7:30 a.m., cars were lined up five and six deep behind the only two pumps with gas.

Maureen McCarthy, who lives near Emory University, waited in line as the needle on her fuel gauge hovered at empty. She was late for work.

“It’s a nightmare,” she said. “I’ve gone to four different stations. When I saw this one I was like ‘Hallellelujah.’”

State and industry officials say the problem stems from supply interruptions from the Gulf, where refineries are still rebuilding capacity after the double whammy of hurricanes Gustav and Ike, and the required use of cleaner-burning fuel in metro Atlanta. That means gas can’t be easily diverted from other areas where supplies are ample.

There were mixed signals about how soon the shortages will abate. Industry officials say refineries are rapidly restoring supply, and state officials say they’re taking steps to boost the flow. Some station owners, however, say they’ve been warned not to expect normal supplies for days to come.

Adding to the frustration, metro Atlantans who find gas are paying well over the national average for it. The average price in the area Monday morning was $4.01 a gallon, about 30 cents higher than the U.S. average, according to AtlantaGasPrices.com.

Spot shortages began more than a week ago but appeared to peak by Sunday evening, when it was hard to find open stations in many areas. Nearly all stations in the Fayetteville and Peachtree City areas, for instance, were gas-less. Earlier Sunday, gas was available at only three of 13 stations along a five-mile stretch of Roswell Road in north Atlanta and Sandy Springs.

Monday morning, outages were scattered among stations throughout Henry County. At the Locust Grove exit off I-75, about half the stations had fuel while the others were tapped out.

BP station clerk Shedrick Fambro said the store expects a delivery of fuel today, but it’s not a sure thing.

“It may be sometime this week, we really couldn’t tell,” Fambro said. “We had 2,500 gallons Saturday and sold out of all but high octane by the afternoon. We were out of the high octane by Sunday.”

Many stations in the Stockbridge area had working pumps, but the Kangroo store on Jodeco Road, selling BP gas, was awaiting a delivery.

“We’re hoping to get some more in today or tomorrow,” said clerk Brenda Singleton.

At least one fuel supplier is calling on the Environmental Protection Agency to temporarily loosen fuel sulfur standards to restore supplies in metro Atlanta. That way, gas could be trucked in from other cities to metro Atlanta, where cleaner-burning fuel is required because of air quality problems.

Tex Pitfield, president of Saraguay Petroleum Corp., on Friday fired off an e-mail to Gov. Sonny Perdue and the Georgia Environmental Facilities Authority (GEFA), urging the state to lobby federal officials to allow imports of higher-sulfur fuel.

“The Governor’s office needs to be at this point a leader and stop hiding their head in the sand,” Pitfield wrote.

Bert Brantley, spokesman for Perdue, said the governor’s office is doing all it can, from extending the time gas haulers have on the road to deliver fuel, and increasing the amount they can carry in one trip, to providing as much information to the EPA as possible.

“It’s up to GEFA to decide how bad it is,” Brantley said.

Jill Stuckey, the director of GEFA’s Energy Innovation Center, said she hasn’t heard similar complaints from other suppliers in Georgia.

“We’re living under EPA’s rules right now,” said Stuckey, who works as a liaison between suppliers and critical users such as farmers and hospitals. “If others come forward and say this is too burdensome, we’ll certainly take a look at it.”

Stuckey said the hurricanes hit at a time of year when fuel supplies are already stretched thin. The system is sending fuel oil up to the Northeast, and suppliers in metro Atlanta are switching from summer to winter formula gas. This week, her unit had to arrange a special shipment of fuel to Children’s Hospital of Atlanta and Henry County government.

But she said Chevron, Conoco and Marathon Oil are reporting supplies from the Gulf Coast are now at 80 percent, up from just 30 percent last weekend. That should start showing up at the pump soon.

“We’re doing good,” she said. “It’s going to get better.”

Staff writers Katie Leslie and Rachel Pomerance contributed to this story.

DANNYO
09-22-2008, 04:12 PM
Lisa no shortage in NJ.$331 per gallon.Wow do you think its going to go up the coast.Haven't had any problems yet.

Arubalisa
09-22-2008, 04:29 PM
We are at about $4 a gallon. Would it be worth it to pay more :confused: to not have to drive around and spend 3 hours doing so to find a station with it. :mad:
According to Fox Business, it is a problem with our area and our special "blend" of fuel, besides the shortage from the refinery outages.

confused1
09-22-2008, 04:44 PM
Oil went up $16.00 a barell today maybe the oil companies should bail out the banks.

Andrea J.
09-22-2008, 05:43 PM
no shortage of gas here in central maine

regular gas ranges from 3.50 - 3.69

home heating oil is approx $3.75 gallon :eek:
we have had the heat on now for the last 2 weeks, albeit low........and we are using the wood pellet stove. keeping 1st floor at 70 and 2nd floor at 68. when our houseguest leaves we can shut the bedroom doors upstairs and just heat the first floor.

cindyo
09-22-2008, 05:44 PM
Gas in RI, MA border was 3.59 today, still not bad. No lines, no problems...for now anyway...
The bigger question is do we float, or lock in for oil this winter....My neighbor is alll floating. We might to have a commune and all live in one house if all we can afford is to heat one house.
Now, for another kicker, my good friend in boston bought a pellet stove 7 months ago, had 1 ton of pellets delivered, and the pellet stove won't be in till December....they sold, or so they thought, their wood stove, and had to reneg on the sale....
Its scarey out there....cindy

danadog56
09-22-2008, 06:43 PM
No problems here in Western PA...CihndyO--that's awful having to pay that much for gas.....I was whining because it's up to 369 here...guess I should close my mouth and be grateful. Although I hear it is going to go up more with all of the crap that is going on with the banks and wall st.
think I'll just read my book and hibernate...

Andrea J.
09-22-2008, 07:15 PM
wow cindy, shameful that the pellet place did not follow thru.

we ordered our pellet stove in may and took delivery in mid august.

we alos at that time ordered 5 tons of pellets and have taken delivery of only 1 ton. they tell us the rest will be delivered on wednesday

for those of you that are considering changing to wood pellet, we have been heating with it for 10 yrs. (the waltham house and now this house)

lock in your oil.

we locked in at $3.69
but then again we project that we'll only be using about 300 gallons.




Gas in RI, MA border was 4.59 today, still not bad. No lines, no problems...for now anyway...
The bigger question is do we float, or lock in for oil this winter....My neighbor is alll floating. We might to have a commune and all live in one house if all we can afford is to heat one house.
Now, for another kicker, my good friend in boston bought a pellet stove 7 months ago, had 1 ton of pellets delivered, and the pellet stove won't be in till December....they sold, or so they thought, their wood stove, and had to reneg on the sale....
Its scarey out there....cindy

cindyo
09-22-2008, 07:26 PM
I made a typo Michele, its 3.59, not 4.59...

Arubalisa
09-22-2008, 08:28 PM
I made a typo Michele, its 3.59, not 4.59...
The most we have seen here was $4.40. Today the station dh passes on the way to work was $4.10. On a good note we locked in our Natural Gas for the next 12 months last Wednesday at $1.12 a therm, down from $1.57. :D

Joycee
09-23-2008, 11:15 AM
No problem on Long Island $3.83 this morning for regular. My family owned a gas station back in the 70's & 80's - those were the days..

danadog56
09-23-2008, 09:30 PM
I made a typo Michele, its 3.59, not 4.59...

CindyO, Guess I should have figured that out....but, with the crash, I must have sustained some brain injury...(just kidding) !!

danadog56
09-23-2008, 09:52 PM
wow cindy, shameful that the pellet place did not follow thru.

we ordered our pellet stove in may and took delivery in mid august.

we alos at that time ordered 5 tons of pellets and have taken delivery of only 1 ton. they tell us the rest will be delivered on wednesday

for those of you that are considering changing to wood pellet, we have been heating with it for 10 yrs. (the waltham house and now this house)

lock in your oil.

we locked in at $3.69
but then again we project that we'll only be using about 300 gallons.

Andrea, we have an oil furnace and it costs so much to heat the house....first it is an old farmhouse and we could not find all the cracks and crevices that allow some heat to escape if we looked everyday for a month. We use at least 3-4 tanks throughout the winter season and it is just scary how much it would cost this year....
Fortunately, (he must have had an omen) last year my husband added a wood burning stove to the basement and we use it for 90% of our heating needs. I was amazed at how much money we saved....we have tons of wood on our property and a lot of trees that have been blown over in the past several years so we just have to cut them. The down side is that every 4-5 hours (around the clock )the wood must be replentished, but I fugure that is the price we pay for not freezing our arses off......:)

Arubalisa
09-24-2008, 12:41 PM
Dh just emailed me, I have to share...:D :D :D

"a teacher was walking down the hall... all excited telling everyone her husband got gas... could not resist and asked if that was because she fed him beans last night... it took a minute for it to sink in, and she started to laugh."

Desperation is ugly and there are things besides the pace which are slow here in the south. :doh:

Arubalisa
09-27-2008, 05:05 PM
Today's saga...
12 gas stations.
No gasoline.
13th gas station, very long line, but yes gasoline. :)
Wait on line 30 minutes. :mad:
Get to the pump and it is out. :mad: :mad:

One car down to a quarter tank and the other just shy of full...can survive only one more week of dh driving to work, not including much in the way of extra trips.

Andrea J.
09-28-2008, 12:16 AM
heating with wood is such a good thing!
a nice warm feeling and you are thumbing your nose at the dependance of mideast oil. if each of us did a little more wood or another alternative we can all become less dependant on those countries that hate us.

we also got a rinnai on demand water heater........by propane.

and we'll have an oil fill up probably in early december (275 gallons ARGH!)

you are so lucky that you have your own burnable wood on property.
if you lower the flame/auger in your wood stove can you get a full night of heat without having to get up from a sound sleep to restoke?

folks here in maine, that do not have their own wood are paying $300 a cord. very pricey indeed.

love the smell of a good wood fire

in my first life i was laura ingalls wilder;)

andrea


Andrea, we have an oil furnace and it costs so much to heat the house....first it is an old farmhouse and we could not find all the cracks and crevices that allow some heat to escape if we looked everyday for a month. We use at least 3-4 tanks throughout the winter season and it is just scary how much it would cost this year....
Fortunately, (he must have had an omen) last year my husband added a wood burning stove to the basement and we use it for 90% of our heating needs. I was amazed at how much money we saved....we have tons of wood on our property and a lot of trees that have been blown over in the past several years so we just have to cut them. The down side is that every 4-5 hours (around the clock )the wood must be replentished, but I fugure that is the price we pay for not freezing our arses off......:)

cindyo
09-28-2008, 11:19 AM
Andrea, let us know how you make out with your hurricane KYLE...hope all the trees, houses etc make it thru..cindy take care....

Andrea J.
09-28-2008, 01:02 PM
deluges of rain
and the most annoying thing..............get this.........
the freaking acorns bouncing off the metal roof:mad:

it sounds at times like a jackhammer

we need to import some squirrels to gather the acorns off the trees before they fall and hit the roof.

so other than deluges of rain.............5" in the last 48 hrs and still pouring...............no wind to speak of. in the downeast section of maine.............about 80 miles northeast of here, they are expecting heavier rain, crashing waves but not hurricane force winds. nova scotia will get the winds.

Andrea, let us know how you make out with your hurricane KYLE...hope all the trees, houses etc make it thru..cindy take care....

Arubalisa
09-28-2008, 01:50 PM
deluges of rain
and the most annoying thing..............get this.........
the freaking acorns bouncing off the metal roof:mad:

it sounds at times like a jackhammer.
Okay, let's make a deal. We will trade you rain :rain: for acorns. :thumb:

We feed our 8 or so squirrels and 4 chipmunks for entertainment for the cats (well I guess us humans enjoy as well :o). Think of all the money we would save...free acorns....:cool:

.23 in. of rain this month :eek: just don't cut it. Even last year the month of September we had .39 inches. :rolleyes: Don't know which is worse, the drought or gas situation?

Dh went out at 7:30 a.m. once again in search of gas. 20 stations, 1 hr. 15 minutes of driving and came up dry. One station has a line. Lines now though do not mean gas, means people may just be waiting for a delivery. :rolleyes: :doh:

Andrea, may you stay dry, may we receive rain. We have a 20% chance on Tuesday and that is about it.