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Andy
03-20-2005, 10:51 AM
WE had a great time in Aruba but I wouldn't recommend it as a place for families with kids 15-17 years of age. Aruba's dirty little secret is that the 18 year old drinking age is very "squishy". Translation:
Hardly enforced. What do kids of this age want to do between the hours of 7PM -Midnight? Hang out with their parents in the hotel room? Hell no! Down to the tiki bars on the beach in the high rise district they love to go. It is exceedinly difficult to se t limits on the kids when there are so many kids in this age group. Can you reasonably expect the hotels to serve them only soft drinks? Sure.It doesn't happen. As aresult excessive drinking is rampant. And by the way, re: Carlos and Charlies. That tourist trap, hell hole is no place for families nor 16 year olds travelling in groups. WE had an incident in there with our 16 year old which would make your hair stand up. Aruba: a great place to vacation., a
lousy place for families with teenagers.

Wes
03-20-2005, 02:07 PM
Sounds like a very sad case of poor parenting to me.

If teenagers choose to imbibe in Aruba, do you think they have been as pure as the driven snow in the good old US of A?

Get real.

MFC
03-20-2005, 02:10 PM
I agree with you. We were there from Feb. 20 to Feb.27. There were many drunk, affluent teenagers about 15 years of age, boys and girls, at the Hyatt Beach Bar. Then they all left at about 11:00 to go to the Holiday Inn. There were about 100 of them! I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it with my own eyes! And the girls were skimpily clad!

tony
03-20-2005, 02:58 PM
Are you living in another world? What do you think happens in the USA?
Its all in how you bring up your kids in the USA, the more you tell them not to do something the more they want to do it!
If you live in Europe you dont have these type of problems because its not a big deal to drink at as a teenager, the more you hold them back the more they want to do it!
What do you think happens in Cancun? THe drinking age is 18 also!

I will be going down for my 12 time this April and my son who is 19 will be going with his 2 friends and i KNOW for a fact that I WILL NOT have a problem with a drinking issue. Why you ask? Its because he does not think its a big deal to drink a beer or glass of wine! Do you remeber when you were a kid? When your parents said you could not do something is when you wanted to do it, so loosen up, this is 2005!

andrea
03-20-2005, 03:37 PM
here is an observation from a parent of a now 19 yr old.

when he was 14-15-16-17-18 he visted aruba with us on many occassions. to the best of our knowledge he did not drink or partake in illegal activities.

quite often we also allowed him to bring a friend with him on vacation.

there was ample opportunity for these kids to drink.....they did not.

evenings while husband and i were in casinos the 2 of them were either hanging with some kids their own age on resort property, downtown at the movies, playing pool at holiday inn or lacabana.

these 2 were real tired of hearing the non drinking lecture. we did our parenting and expected the kids to behave and they did behave. we were pleased.

these 2 also spent days horseback riding windsurfing and scuba diving, so there were quite a few evenings when they were dead tired and were in bed by 10pm.

aruba a great vacation spot for families and for TRUSTWORTHY teenagers.

Connie
03-20-2005, 04:30 PM
Aruba is much safer for teens than Cancun. I would rather bring my teens to Aruba anyday!!!!

teen
03-20-2005, 04:30 PM
maybe louzy for the parents ,but not for the teenagers

Chris from CT
03-20-2005, 04:39 PM
No offense Andy but if you had control over your child maybe he wouldnt drink. Just cause he is 16 and theres a large group doesnt mean you cant keep your eye on him. Granted kids will do what they wanted to do but if you had any respect from your child or disciplined him properly in his life he would respect the fact that you dont want him not to drink and not do it.

I am only 21 and at 16 I wasnt drinking at 16. I repsected my parents and eventhough peer pressure was strong and I was a typical 16 yr old, i respected what my parents said and didnt disrespect them in the way your kid did.

So before you knock Aruba why not check out your relationshipw ith your kid and the lack of communication and respect you two have going.

My take on things. Take it with a grain of salt for all I care or take it into serious consideration,
Chris

JIM
03-20-2005, 05:49 PM
really the first time i've heard this. maybe it's time to sit down and have a talk with your kid(s).

Lucille
03-20-2005, 06:44 PM
What kind of parent would take their 16 year old in to Carlos and Charlies?

peggy
03-20-2005, 06:53 PM
I had no problems when my children were that age when we took them to Aruba.it's probably like you say on every Island now.

linda
03-20-2005, 09:01 PM
Do you think this is the first time your 16 yr old has probably drank. Think again.

Tom
03-20-2005, 09:20 PM
I disagree, i'm 25 and have been visiting Aruba since i was 12. last may i stood in line outside of carlos and charlies while they checked id's, including mine. sure when i was younger on they island it seemed like nobody would mind if i was drinking a frozen drink,but i never realy wanted one. Sure it can happen but not if you keep an eye on your curious teen.why not hang out w/ them at night,aruba is that kind of place where everyone can hang out and let loose, with plenty of different places to have fun including carlos and charlies. It's a great place to visit no matter what age.

Renee
03-20-2005, 09:28 PM
It's all in how you raise your children and the values you teach them. If they want to drink (or do anything else for that matter) they can do it anywhere. It doesn't have to be in Aruba.

leslie
03-20-2005, 10:41 PM
[19yr old girl from new jersey]

i don't think it's all how you raise your children.. my parents are wonderful and taught my 17 year old sister and i how to be nice, respectful citizens. but school/work and general life as a teenager can be hard these days. kids just wanna let loose. most kids don't drink into oblivion, they just drink to feel relaxed. i usually initiate the planning of our family vacations because otherwise it never gets done (lol) and this year i opted to choose aruba over cancun because i knew that i would feel safer (for myself, my sister, and our friend) there. cancun gets craaazy with all sorts of contests and such. aruba is so much more relaxed. my sister, her friend, and i love our parents and they allow us to drink with them and away from them because they know that i know how to handle myself and i watch out for my sister like she were my daughter. but not all teens are like this. some are just gonna do what they want and they'll sneak around.. you wouldn't believe what some (supposedly) good kids do. if the drinking age in the US had always been the same as in Europe there wouldn't be so much illegal activity going on. kids in the US start drinking at incredibly young ages now.. try like 11yrs old! bad examples that older kids set has trickled its way down to middle school level. it doesn't really matter how much "control" parents think they have over their children because they can be missing a whole world of information if they don't have a close relationship with them. anyway, i'm really looking forward to getting down to aruba for the second time this saturday!... (first was when i was 10). sorry to you folks who don't like seeing kids having fun, why don't you try bermuda next time.

Mike
03-21-2005, 02:12 AM
Kids will do what they want to do, especially if they are told that they are not even allowed to think about it. Having just recently turning 21, went through this issue with my parents many times. The bottom line is that drinking alcohol is not a bad thing, it is how you handle it. My parents were OK with me drinking as long as I was responsible about it. Since they put their trust in me, I respected their request to not drink and drive, get oblivereated, etc. The drinking age would have never been raised from 18 in the US if kids didn't do the stupid crap that they do today.

Beth
03-21-2005, 08:21 AM
what happened at carlos and charlies?

Al
03-21-2005, 08:43 AM
How many of you asked to speak to the Manager of the hotel or take pen in hand and write to Hyatt or wherever and complain to corporate headquarters? Raise hell, When you speak to the manager make sure everyone in the hotel hears you. Threaten a law suit.

boston lisa
03-21-2005, 09:39 AM
I have been to Carlos N Charlies with my son during the daytime hours and it was fine. I would not think of bringing him there at night. I don't know what happened there but blaming Aruba for your child's actions is a major smoke screen.

Jo
03-21-2005, 11:00 AM
My son just turned 21 and is a Junior in college...he may have a beer once in a while but neither he nor his friends are "drinkers" and he chooses to hang out with friends that have his values. We would offer him a glass of wine or beer at special family occasions so it was never a big deal to him. My husband and I took him and three of his friends to Aruba for his high school graduation present....we have a timeshare at Costa Linda so he's been going there for years. They were all 18 at the time and when we went to dinner they might or might not have a beer or mixed drink. They also went to Carlos and Charlies alone and had a couple of drinks....but to be honest, they spent most of the night dancing and having a good time. You can actually do that.....not drink and have a good time!!! There's a common misperception among adults that all teenagers and college students drink themselves silly.....many do, some don't and I'm proud of my son for making the right choice for him.

Papito
03-21-2005, 01:07 PM
Typical "Mentality" of the times....

My kids drink..it must be someone else's fault. I get fat...it must be McDonald's fault.

Take responsibility for your own actions. They are YOUR kids. Why do I have to look out for them? Why do YOU leave them alone at night...and at midnight??

charles
03-21-2005, 04:57 PM
Hi there parents -


An interesting question to ask kids that drak bit much is the following:

Now that you are sober - be honest with me and tell me which of these two things you feelt just prior to comming home.

Mom and Dad don't care anyway.

or

Mom and Dad are going to kill me when they find out.

There can be a wealth of information in answers.

charles
arubafastphones.com

corey.
03-21-2005, 11:15 PM
Charles,
I love your perception on things. You are a great dad.

gocats
03-23-2005, 10:33 AM
What happened at Carlos and Charlies?

sweet_1991
07-16-2008, 05:40 PM
im 16 and live in the England, letting teenagers drink happens often, it dont make you an unresponsable parent to let your child drink, my parents let me, and all my friends drink also and there parents allow them to . most people over here start drinking at 15. and because they start drinking young they drink responsable. as i drink most weeks and yet im a A* student. so in america i think you need to loosen up on your kids. and when on holidays you should for certain.