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    I hope we see better numbers soon. Lisa, I hope you get to go. It’s discouraging to have to put so much thought into our vacation plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaGrn View Post
    I'm supposed to leave for Aruba on Aug. 3rd. Everything is all set, appt. for Covid test scheduled for next Saturday morning. I had resolved I wouldn't worry about that and just go with the flow. If I'm meant to go, I'll get there. But these quickly-rising numbers have me a bit freaked out. Yes, I'm fully vaccinated. Yes, they are rising quickly in the US as well. But I don't have to go through one of the busiest airports in the world (JFK) and get on a plane full of people I know nothing about. I can pretty much control my environment at home and work. As much as I hate the thought, I think I'm going to have to have a serious discussion with my cousin this weekend (she's coming down for six of the ten days I'm there). At this point, I won't lose my deposit at Manchebo; Black Pearl doesn't actually charge you for their cruise until the day of; can cancel the one dinner rez I've made at Taste of Aruba; and pretty sure I can get another eCredit for my airfare (that's the one I'm not sure about; have to check with Delta). And then there's the factor of as much as I want to go on vacation and to Aruba again, is this really worth all the worry and expense (for things I won't get back). Is a vacation really worth this much stress and the "unknown"? Not asking for an answer; just expressing my thought process. I have some serious soul searching to do this weekend.
    ....on the plus side of the full aircraft.... everyone will have had a very recent negative covid test and that's better odds than going to the local supermarket. Manchebo has been real good at requiring masks for their folks and based on the folks we spoke with vaccinations seem to be almost 100% for people we came in contact with. I really hope you're able to be comfortable going. IMHO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaGrn View Post
    And then there's the factor of as much as I want to go on vacation and to Aruba again, is this really worth all the worry and expense (for things I won't get back). Is a vacation really worth this much stress and the "unknown"? Not asking for an answer; just expressing my thought process. I have some serious soul searching to do this weekend.
    I can really relate to this. Honestly, if I had it to do over again or if a refund had been an option, I probably would not have gone last November. Yes, we have flown other places. Yes, we have stayed in hotels and done things that would be considered risky behavior, but Aruba is so special. It was different during the pandemic. For some the differences were all positive, including less crowds. But I would say if the numbers keep going in the wrong direction, my concern would be the return of restrictions that will make the vacation different.
    The best trip is the next trip. Anxiously waiting to book something.
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    That's a most excellent point, Chuck. I'm comfortable with being at Manchebo; I know they have been doing a great job. It's getting to our favorite place that has me freaking. Neither Priscilla nor I can afford to quarantine in Aruba. We have jobs to get back to and we're not made of money!

    Priscilla and I are going to talk tonight (I'm at work on yet another Saturday-so I can go on vacation! Ha!). She's okay with whatever we decide. There's a small part of me that would almost be relieved if we cancelled. I could stop worrying about it all! How sad and preventable is that...anyone who CAN get vaccinated needs to GET IT DONE.

    Enough! Sorry for the Debbie Downer posts, but know you guys understand! Going to work for a couple of more hours and then go home to watch the Olympics (which I personally believe should have been cancelled but I love them, so I'll watch anyway! GO USA!!!).

    Quote Originally Posted by cpjones View Post
    ....on the plus side of the full aircraft.... everyone will have had a very recent negative covid test and that's better odds than going to the local supermarket. Manchebo has been real good at requiring masks for their folks and based on the folks we spoke with vaccinations seem to be almost 100% for people we came in contact with. I really hope you're able to be comfortable going. IMHO!
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    fingers and toes crossed for you Lisa.

    my opinion is that if I had an aruba trip planned, I would take the trip.
    while in aruba, both times during the pandemic, I felt way more safe/protected than here in my grocery store and we were in Mississippi just yesterday, one of the lowest vaccinated states.................when I wasn't sucking down bloody Mary's I was masked. it was like a leper colony there.

    keep watching Lisa and do what is right for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaGrn View Post
    I'm supposed to leave for Aruba on Aug. 3rd. Everything is all set, appt. for Covid test scheduled for next Saturday morning. I had resolved I wouldn't worry about that and just go with the flow. If I'm meant to go, I'll get there. But these quickly-rising numbers have me a bit freaked out. Yes, I'm fully vaccinated. Yes, they are rising quickly in the US as well. But I don't have to go through one of the busiest airports in the world (JFK) and get on a plane full of people I know nothing about. I can pretty much control my environment at home and work. As much as I hate the thought, I think I'm going to have to have a serious discussion with my cousin this weekend (she's coming down for six of the ten days I'm there). At this point, I won't lose my deposit at Manchebo; Black Pearl doesn't actually charge you for their cruise until the day of; can cancel the one dinner rez I've made at Taste of Aruba; and pretty sure I can get another eCredit for my airfare (that's the one I'm not sure about; have to check with Delta). And then there's the factor of as much as I want to go on vacation and to Aruba again, is this really worth all the worry and expense (for things I won't get back). Is a vacation really worth this much stress and the "unknown"? Not asking for an answer; just expressing my thought process. I have some serious soul searching to do this weekend.

    I understand your concern. My son had a version of Coronavirus (not Covid-19) during the summer of 2019. He was very, very ill. Hospitalized for 3 weeks and had to stay quarantined for another two weeks after he was released. He had a team of 7 specialists from Yale-Hew HavenHospital and they even published a paper about his case in the Journal of the American Medical Association regarding his lingering blood clots (which didn’t go away until the following February. )
    He’s a soccer coach and has to be tested daily. He still sometimes gets false positives when he’s tested. He is fully vaccinated as are all of us in the family. He was supposed to join us in Aruba a few weeks ago with his wife and kids but his CovidTest taken 72 hours before departure came back positive. They immediately took another test and it came back negative. He’s not willing to take a chance that the same thing would happen testing in Aruba for return to the USA so they canceled the trip. As disappointed as we are we know he made the right decision.
    My husband and I are returning in October for 10 days. We’ll roll with whatever restrictions are in place.
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    I understand your stress Lisa and it is a decision only you can make. We are here....I feel safe. There were times (as recently as April) where even though vaccinated we were not going anyhwere as counts were very high. I do mask at grocery store and any establishment that asks you to mask (a few). Tonight we are even dining inside a restaurant. For me...there are states in USA that I would not even drive through...never mind get out of the car and vacation. (I am a USA citizen so I can say that...lol) Good luck thinking this through.
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    Best of luck making that decision Lisa- I know it will be a hard one. I have not felt unsafe and did not think much of the return till I took the test yesterday and was waiting for our results. Last night I dreamed mine came back positive and had to stay. I guess my conscious blocked it out but my subconscious was worried. Glad it was for not....headed home tomorrow.
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    Wow thank you for these updates. We are due to visit Aruba Sept. 18,2021 and I am very concerned about them closing the Island for visitors. Just spoke to my sister whom is visiting Greece end of August. I like to talk positive but I told their is a very strong chance none of us will travel. I hope my time share either refunds my money or credits me a week next year. I do not feel good about this!
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    the conditions would have to be catastrophic for Aruba to close.

    Quote Originally Posted by tstroum View Post
    Wow thank you for these updates. We are due to visit Aruba Sept. 18,2021 and I am very concerned about them closing the Island for visitors. Just spoke to my sister whom is visiting Greece end of August. I like to talk positive but I told their is a very strong chance none of us will travel. I hope my time share either refunds my money or credits me a week next year. I do not feel good about this!
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