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Thread: Interesting hotel article about building- Friend or Foe is the title

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    Interesting hotel article about building- Friend or Foe is the title

    I came across the following earlier today and it got me thinking about a conversation I had with one of our taxi drivers last trip. I asked him what the people of Aruba think about all the building and the proposed building. He quickly responded IMO "I think we have had enough building and we need to stop it- but nobody listens to me."

    So here is an article- what are your thoughts after reading it? http://www.arubatoday.com/opinion-co...friend-or-foe/

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    I know my opinion does not count but I would say enough is enough. Many people (not me of course) don't like the Palm Beach area because of the crowds and all the vendors and I worry about the rest of the island filling up as well. I was on record of saying I support a hotel in SN BUT I hate the idea of it be an AI. That type of hotel won't bring the right customer to that side of the island IMO as many AI travelers (not all) stay at their hotel and they do not spend a lot of money in the local bars and restaurants.

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    We stay away from Palm Beach for the reasons that you speak, but hey, we’re old. We like to have some space around us on the beach. We do venture to Palm Beach area though for dining and entertainment. Our fear is that Eagle will soon become Palm. All of the people at Embassy Suites, a second tower at Azure, O condominiums, along with at least four other smaller properties in the immediate area currently under construction will be seeking beach access somewhere. And that doesn’t include the proposed projects that haven’t started yet. It will certainly make that tourist area over crowded. And let’s especially not forget the locals. JMHO

    After thought: What does one think about Harbour House? Something had to be done with that structure for sure.
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    I forgot about the O condos as well and really had no clue about the other projects- that strip is going to get very busy sadly All that said I still love Aruba!!!!

    I hope the Harbor house is a success. The plans look very nice. And as you mentioned something had to be done as it was an eyesore.
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    We stay away from Palm Beach for the reasons that you speak, but hey, we’re old. We like to have some space around us on the beach. We do venture to Palm Beach area though for dining and entertainment. Our fear is that Eagle will soon become Palm. All of the people at Embassy Suites, a second tower at Azure, O condominiums, along with at least four other smaller properties in the immediate area currently under construction will be seeking beach access somewhere. And that doesn’t include the proposed projects that haven’t started yet. It will certainly make that tourist area over crowded. And let’s especially not forget the locals. JMHO

    After thought: What does one think about Harbour House? Something had to be done with that structure for sure.

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    Most locals do not want new construction. To fill those positions, they need more people to move to the island and it forces home prices and taxes the infrastructure of the island. Traffic is awful in places-try driving out to the neighborhoods. It is like playing "follow the leader"-long lines of cars crawling along. It takes me 20+ minutes(in the evening it is 30 minutes) to get to and from my class and it is just over 6 miles. The roads cannot handle the increase in vehicles on the road. I wonder if the desalinization, electric and sewage plants can handle it. Can the container port handle the extra containers that will need to come in provide necessities? After seeing the type of medical care my neighbor had, I have serious doubts they could handle a major emergency.

    Personally, there is enough construction. It is time to stop. I think the project in SN is overkill and will become a white elephant just like the refinery-huge and empty. You are right that with an AI people are not going to spend much time off the property except for some souvenirs or a tour. And, unless they clean up and make SN safer, there could be issues. I also do not like the planned construction for Eagle Beach-too many new rooms, too many people. They also are now bringing more cruise ship people to EB. I read something about them wanting dredge the port so they could bring in larger ships.

    Enough is enough.




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    We were done with Palm Beach and switched to Eagle years ago because of the building and crowds..... Too much is too much....
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    Even the people in real estate that have the opportunity to profit from the sale of these new properties say that there is way to much new construction going on. I wonder if the tourism industry really has a voice in the matter. At least there is a place to vent.

    Oddly enough the article that Aruba4ever linked to was the English news magazine.
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    the article was very interesting!!

    what was also interesting is that it was in the Aruba Today......the tourist newspaper.
    that article was INTENDED for us all to see.

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    Basically Arubans are torn on the subject of a new hotel in SN. On the one hand, San Nicolas needs life and has needed it for a long time. The refinery isn't sustainable and its way passed the time to find a solution. Its also in part aimed at redistributing a little of the economic benefit to that side of the island, given that almost all the activities happen on the western side of the island. In addition, its supposed to create spin off businesses that profit from the new hotel guests, like happened back in Noord back in the day.

    On the other hand, there are issues with this project. If a referendum were to be held, i'de say 90% of the population would vote for a ban on more hotels. Locals fear that the area will become overcrowded and there is a grave concern about the ecological impact. Its also not ideal that the hotel would be part all inclusive(I think 2/3 of the rooms are AI). All inclusive guests are known world wide to sit in the resort, at least for the first 2 or 3 days of their trip.

    Some people i've heard also argue that there has been a ton of condos built in the noord area and no one seriously objected, now all of a sudden that its a project for the people of SN, there is a problem.

    So all in all a very divisive issue, because even though most Arubans want a total moratorium, many of those same people believe that SN needs and deserves the business. So, as you all can see, a very complicated issue. One thing is for certain, after these project(s) end, there will be a total moratorium in Aruba and hopefully in time those older and unused building can be demolished(think ex bushiri hotel) and then the space will open up again. Also when the new roads open, it will feel less congested.

    By next year or the year after that, Aruba will be able to get out of the contract with Citgo I believe if they don't comply, so hopefully they start tearing down and sanitising that area so it can be used for something else in the future.
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    Our friends in Aruba truly believe that The Big Hotel for Baby Beach will be coming soon.
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